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  1. I am one of the owners of American Powertrain and all I can say when I see a post like this is YIKES!!! We are here, answering phones and emails ten hours a day and helping people with tech support 24/7. Not sure where your request went, but for goodness sakes don't give up on us. If you will PM me your contact information I will have someone on the phone with you first thing in the morning. We have over 200 transmissions in stock, along with all the support parts and systems for a great installation. And I am here, too. If you don't want to PM me you can email me at gray@americanpowertrain.com. I look forward to helping you out. Respects, Gray
  2. You absolutely do NOT have to remove the steering column for this install. We had the firewall plate out of TNF's car because we needed it at our shop to make measurements and do the development work, but essentially the entire install only requires that you use a hand drill to put three very small bolt holes in the plate. Keep in mind that we send literally thousands of hydraulic kits out a year, all with similar requirements for installation, and this one is actually a little easier than most because everything can be accessed from inside the car where there is a lot of room to work, and the pedal hookup is very easy to get to. Under the hood, it will be no different than any other of our systems. Run the lines, find a good spot for the reservoir, install the slave and bleed the system. Looks like pricing will be very similar to our other kits at $589. While we are spending a little more on the custom pieces for the kit, we want to hold the line on pricing to make sure this thing is affordable. With this kit are we gonna receive a hydro throw out bearing or a slave cylinder? I don't know if there are external brackets for the TKO or the toploader! If it'll go in easily, I'm sold over my current 5spd push style cable!! When can we get dips on a set? The kit will come with a hydraulic throw-out bearing. We use them almost exclusively. They have been designed for street and strip use, meaning that the seals are made to sit over long winters without failure. Our release bearing models are tested for 1.5million cycle durability, which translates into about 200,000 miles of normal use. You can order a system any time. The firewall parts will be ready either Friday of this week or Monday of next week. The rest of the parts are on the shelf. You can e-mail me your phone number at gray@americanpowertrain.com so I can have someone give you a call or give us a call at 931.646.4836 ext 201. AP
  3. You absolutely do NOT have to remove the steering column for this install. We had the firewall plate out of TNF's car because we needed it at our shop to make measurements and do the development work, but essentially the entire install only requires that you use a hand drill to put three very small bolt holes in the plate. Keep in mind that we send literally thousands of hydraulic kits out a year, all with similar requirements for installation, and this one is actually a little easier than most because everything can be accessed from inside the car where there is a lot of room to work, and the pedal hookup is very easy to get to. Under the hood, it will be no different than any other of our systems. Run the lines, find a good spot for the reservoir, install the slave and bleed the system. Looks like pricing will be very similar to our other kits at $589. While we are spending a little more on the custom pieces for the kit, we want to hold the line on pricing to make sure this thing is affordable.
  4. Sorry, my feed back was to go directly to your web site to see what was upgraded there. All I found was to "call for prices" and I haven't gotten that far. Still here, still looking, still hoping, still dreaming, still planning but not standing still. Thanks. Steven, We need to get product images to put a kit together on the website. If you have questions you are welcome to give me a call at 931.646.4836 ext 103. I did the development work and fitment. We should have the system on our hydraulics website, www.hotrodhydrauilics.com in the next few weeks. AP Well, no, I have not seen the concerns. This thread is ten pages long so far, and I simply have not gone back and read everyone's comments. I will try to carve out some time to do that this afternoon. AP
  5. Wow, I expected some feedback by now. You folks still out there?
  6. Not right now, its on me now though to get it in. Hey Roy, I'm fix'n to do a c6 to manual trans conversion but don't know which way to go. It's good to know we're finally having options from Modern Driveline and the company that's doing yours to choose from. Hopefully you'll get yours done and do a full write up with pros and cons. In the mean time, I'm holding off from getting any pedal assemblies till I hear from your experience and parts used. So, with this in mind, please getter done soon :rolleyes: The infamous American Powertrain returns... I am soooo sorry I have been away. We have been machining production parts after the successful hydraulic installation on TNFastback's car. I really did not want to start making promises we could not deliver on. I took some really excellent images of the installation, and because it is so specific to the 71-73 cars it was an absolute snap to put in. I was in and out of TNF's car in a half hour, though not having the dash panel and pedals in the way probably saved me an hour of messing around. I have attached some really clear images. I can e-mail more to anyone who needs them but it is pretty self explanatory. In a nutshell, there is plenty of clearance for the steering column, steering knuckle and frame section around the master cylinder assembly, the rod hooks to the pedal using the existing pedal bump stop hole and the billet bracket is form fit to the existing plate on the firewall. Because the threads are in the billet bracket, the only fabrication you have to do is mark and drill three small holes as you can see in the first image. The small steel turn bracket at the top of the pedal rod (2nd image) was made by hand. Production pieces look more polished (yes, I will be sending a nicer one to TNF). The third image shows the outside of the firewall with lots of clearance and plenty of room for the feed line and reservoir hose. We use an o-ring boss seal to -3AN 90-degree fitting to send the feed line toward the bell housing without putting any bending stress on it. We have slave bearings for all 4-speed, 5-speed and 6-speed models. Questions are welcome. AP
  7. Maybe an option is to bellcrank (ball raced) the linkage on the frame rail in the spot where your trying to locate the cylinder..this way you could fab a mount to get the cylinder lower & or higher out of the 1.75 zone..Just a thought Not a bad idea. If I can get the angle correct between the master and the pedal with a ball joint (not the kind in your suspension) mounted to the frame rail that would solve the firewall mounting issue. You're thinking out there, folks, and it is much appreciated!!!! We have a side mount master on the shelf. I'm off to tinker.
  8. The headache is coming from the odd shape of the clutch arm, which causes the master cylinder rod to follow an arc, which will cause the rod to bend. We are fixing that with a pair of tandem spherical rod ends. The other issue is that the area where the master generally resides on the firewall (in every other car on God's green Earth) sits in a 1.75" wide slot between the steering joint and the frame rail. This is a very narrow opening for a master cylinder and mount. I am working on a 71-73 mounting bracket that will be extraordinarily slim and allow the master to pivot while in operation. Doing it on one car is a cake walk, however being able to put something in a box and send it to a car owner for a repeatable installation with no welding or crazy tools necessary is a trick. If the system is not relatively easy to install and durable to the tune of 100,000 pumps on the clutch pedal then I will be reading hate mail all day every day. For the sake of our customers (and my selfish desire not to get death threats) I will only put a well sorted product on the market. I have designed hydraulic systems, transmission systems, shifter mechanisms, clutches and cross members so I am sure I will be able to solve the issues. Wish me luck.
  9. Our systems for the 65-66 cars are quite easy to install. I was looking at an inside the car option but there is so little room up where the rod and return spring sit that the master cylinder has no room to operate. We are working on a pull-style master cylinder, but it is a ways off. I would like to see the video if you find it.
  10. OK, folks, the pictures aren't all that flattering. Too many years of getting punched in the face I'm afraid. On a serious note, we had a few glitches in the design. Turns out there is only 1.75" between the frame rail and the steering joint, and that is a very tiny space to operate in. Fear not, however, I just spent the 1-1/2 hour drive back to design the fixes. Just have to put them in motion. I don't know if you gentlemen realize this, but we have hydraulic solutions for every single classic Ford, Mopar and GM ride except yours. That is no accident, your pedal box is a miracle of over design and the space on your firewall is extraordinarily crowded. But that's why we are the experts and I will have the fix ready next week. Will probably spend the weekend in the fab shop cranking out parts for it. I will, as promised, keep you updated. Keep the faith. Gray@AP P.S. I also delivered our killer Mean Street full circle Kevlar clutch on the road trip. Can't wait to get feedback on that too! If xoliex's pedal isn't available or he's actively using his car, I am willing to send my factory pwr disc pedal (from an automatic car) to be used as the template since my car isn't operational right now...still waiting on that Cookeville firm to get the details completed on their hydraulic setup so I can buy it for my 71 and install the Tremec 3550. :D . my automatic pedal sits in its bracket assy and sits in my shed in the backyard. whats in my car now is the clutch pedal assy i found on ebay. it just sits and is my OEM, of course i'm going to wait it back. but maybe we can just send him pictures of the measurement of the attachment point. and of course on a powerbrake set up, the attachment point is lower than a manual brake. let me know! If you guys will work it out among yourselves I will use whichever one is easiest for you to get to and ship. Don't worry about knocking off the cobwebs, just throw it in a box.
  11. OK, I am leaving for K'ville now, but I couldn't help but post. If we are going to re-pop the pedals your auto pedal would be great to have for reference. 2199 Summerfield Rd, Cookeville, TN 38501. Careful what you offer, someone might just take you up on it. ;)
  12. OK gents, after much thought and several re-designs the hydraulic system is all worked out except for a test fit, which I am doing in the morning on TNFastback's car. I have a couple of different bracket designs to fit, but both are ones we can produce in quantity within a few days of test fitment. The rest of the components are ready to go, including a really nice form-fitting firewall backing plate that fits in the cover plate that shares space with the clutch rod and the steering column. I will take some pictures when it is in the car. The way I have it mocked up in our shop I think it is going to be an easy install and no mods to the pedal box. Will try to post tomorrow evening. I am sure TNFastback will be posting too!
  13. The toploader is no problem at all once we get the master cylinder worked out. And we sell more 5-speed kits for Mustang than any other company that I am aware of. Had to throw a shameless plug in, workin' hard here.
  14. Howdy Gents, Just wanted to post a quick follow up. The pedal boxes in these cars, as you probably well know, are nothing like the 67-70 boxes and has a lot of parts to work around. The original rod gets pulled, which is bass ackwards for pushing a master rod, and popping a hole in the top of the clutch arm is a no go because the swing of the pedal runs uphill which would only bend the master rod. The strategy for the new system is to hook up to the rear spring mount so the rod will be pushed instead of pulled. The spring is eliminated on a hydraulic set-up anyway, so that leaves us a strong mounting point. The problem is that there is no turn-key shoulder bolt that will fit, so we are hand turning a custom pin that we will produce in quantity after it is proven out. The other issue is the huge hole next to the steering column. We are laser cutting a custom fit plate that will bolt to the existing firewall plate so we can bolt up the master. This plate will be mounted on the inside of the firewall so it will have plenty of strength when you are stuffing your foot into it. The geometry should be excellent and give a big pedal ratio, which will make actuation easier on your leg. I am over-the-top busy (business is good, so no complaints), but our fabrication department is turning the custom parts out now and we should have something ready to test fit next week. I will try to keep you updated, but a little nudge is never a bad thing.
  15. Do i have to come to you to volunteer, I'm in knoxville and the car has plenty of room for you to work. NO motor or tranny installed right now. I believe I talked with Greg today but its been a long day so don't hold me to the name. If its something you are really interested in doing shoot me a PM or email. I'm sure we can work something out. Also from another post my pedals are out of the car right now if you would like to use them for measurements for a repop. We would be happy to use your pedals for a re-pop project. Should not have to have them too long. On using your car for hydraulic fitment, I don't mind sending someone to Knoxville to do the work, but I am afraid that without our onsite ability to fabricate parts it will be hard to come up with a piece that is a good template for production. Do you have any kind of fabrication ability where the car is stored? Engine out is an exceptional way to do hydraulic master cylinder fitment, so I hope we can work something out. I will PM you my contact information.
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