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  1. Geoff, I appreciate you being a good sport with what originally started with your shroud find. The ID # number on the shroud was what piqued my interest. I'm sure the version Master Parts Catalog (USB, CD, Paper Fiche) most members are using is the Final version of May 1975. That number was not in any of them. I even checked my Lincoln/Mercury books. I finally found it in an old June 1971 fiche. At least we now know there is another shroud that is comparable with the cataloged shroud in the 65-72 MPC. I know the flex fan discussion appears occasionally, but for the sake of any new members th
  2. Hello Geoff, I know most of the regulars here have already seen our numerous posts on these flex fans, but this will benefit any new members. Hope you don't mind the slight hijack of you original shroud post! The 71's used a five-blade flex fan if equipped with AC or extra cooling option. Those fans (DOAE-A and D1AE-CA) were not the problem fans. In 1972 Ford went to a 7 blade flex fan to increase airflow due to increasing underhood temps from cramped engine compartments, AC, emissions controls, etc. The problem was they were fracturing in alarming numbers There was a massive re
  3. HelloPNWMach1, As previously posted, there were no production installed remote trunk lid release option on the first generation Mustangs. There was a cable actuated release that was originally released for the 1964 full size Ford that was on the dealer installed accessories list. It was available starting with the early 1964 built '65 Mustangs. In 1967 Ford released an electric version that once again had a full size Ford part number but was available as dealer installed or over the counter choice for all vehicle lines. None eliminated the key actuated latch, so that was some surgery per
  4. Fabrice, I checked the early and final edition 73 MPC (Master Parts Catalog) I have and they both give the same part number on the screws. Probably a catalog error that they didn't care to correct since the Mustang II launch was all they had on their minds then. The only '73 window parts I have are the switches which wouldn't help with the screw sizes. I would use Don C's size suggestion if they match your originals. The illustration shows the MPC number which is evidently wrong. Well...I tried.
  5. The power window switch bezels are sourced from the '73 Gran Torino so the screws are the same on the '73 Mustang. The screws are 8-15 X 1 1/2". The Ford part# is 52388-S13, and the S13 finish code is chrome. The description above the illustration identifies the type of screw used. Did not check the AMK site to see if the discontinued Ford # would cross, but would probably be cheaper at a hardware store.
  6. Hello Geoff, The 4sp Q code 351's were equipped with dual point distributors. Unless an original owner, most people weren't aware of that since it would be safe to say that a lot of 'em were "tossed" over the years or upgraded to electronic. I had noticed them on a couple of my friends 4sp Gran Torinos. I ordered one, so I could also bask in the glory and cool factor of having one on my C6 Q Gran Torino. All was fine until I went to help a friend install a set of dual points in his SCJ Cyclone. Got it done but said #@:!?*& with this. I finally stuck my newly acquired dual point distri
  7. Hello Geoff, I know the decal has been the subject of a lot of discussions. My friend with the Boss 302 swears his came with one from the factory. None of my Mustangs have one. The Ford part number goes back to 1960 (C0AZ) so I'm sure it was used on the production line on plenty of different vehicles over time. The fan shrouds on my early built (9/21/70) and late (7/28/71) both have D1ZE-AA (D1ZZ-8146-A) shrouds. It's also possible that the DOOE-C shroud was sent from Ford as a D1ZZ service part. I have seen that done before when the original and replacing part were functionally
  8. Hello Geoff, Haven't been on here in a while so almost missed your post. That's a great find on that shroud. The DOOE-C shroud was production installed on early 1969 built '70 Torinos through the end of '69. It was replaced by the D1ZZ-8146-A which is the production installed shroud on '71 Mustang from day one. All were service replaced by the D3ZZ-8146-A for 71-73 Mustang and 70-71 Torinos. If after you receive jpazs decal you decide you need another, just let me know. I may have one of the Caution-Fan warning decals left. I needed one for a friends Boss 302 but didn't notice that
  9. Another subject that has caused grief for 71-73 owners for years. As David (Carolina_Mountain_Mustang) posted, the assembly line is a fast-paced world where line workers only had mere seconds to perform their assigned task. The paint room was lucky if they even had two minutes to place a multi-piece stencil and paint before the next hood came through. In that type of environment, it was inevitable that variances were going to happen. As I have posted before, Ford, along with the other manufacturers was in the business of mass-producing vehicles, not show cars. So there were no laser-guided ro
  10. Just as with the '71 Boss, the '72 HO was only available with a 4 speed and 3.91 axle ratio. The available engine/trans/axle ratio chart is from the 1972 Dealer order guide.
  11. As 7173Vert posted, you should perform due diligence before buying one of these premium-priced collector cars. No matter if a Ford, GM, or Mopar fan, everyone knows someone who has been smoked over a bad deal. Scam deals where the car never existed or a car advertised as a one of a kind Boss 429 that started life as a 6cyl car. The snake-oil selling, white shoe wearing con artists are out in full force. They know that the generation that grew up with these cars in the '70s now have the income to purchase these dream cars and will make emotional purchases. Wise people such as yourself will join
  12. The deluxe seat belt option (standard on the verts) included the seat belt warning lamp on the left lower side of the dash board. To avoid redundancy, the left side lamp was eliminated when the federally mandated light/buzzer went into production on the Mustang line 12/1/71. The other lamp you referenced is a park brake warning lamp which was part of the convenience group option. It included trunk, glove compartment, map, under hood lamps, head light on warning buzzer, automatic seat back release, under instrument panel courtesy lamps (standard on vert), park brake warning lamp, and glove box
  13. Just some clarity needed in their description. The 5th button is for locking out all window switches to be non-functional until the driver turns them back on. There was not a production installed power door lock option for the 71-73 Mustang or Cougar. The first year such an option became available on the Mustang was 1979. Depending on the vendor you choose, the door certification labels can be made to indicate whatever you want them to show. The label shown in the Hemmings add is incorrect for an early 71 Mustang. The word "Manufactured" should be spelled out at the top of the label, not
  14. You have made a discovery a lot of folks have found when pulling the tank on these 40+-year-old cars. The black material is what's left of open-cell foam. That foam material was used to permit fuel vapors to pass through the vapor separator valve to the charcoal canister. It also keeps liquid fuel from entering the orifice and possibly stopping the line up which would allow the fuel system to not vent properly. As you can see the orifice is very small and could easily get stopped up with the smallest amount of debris. I have used stainless steel pot scrubbers such as Scotch-Brite, Chore Boy,
  15. Just like in the movie "Used Cars" with Kurt Russell, the white shoe wearing, fast talkin' salesmen have always been around. Now with the internet at the world's disposal, cars with "Borrowed Pictures" and only original once cars with a yard-long list of changes, vetting of these gems are more important than ever! With the rocker panel moldings, lower accent body-color molding, plus the Hockey stick stripes and additional 429 emblems, things were starting to get a little busy on this one. The 429 designation only appears five times!! The fender emblems appear to be from Shelbys accessory "D
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