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  1. Hi all, I am looking for a nice set of kick panels in black for a 73 mach 1. They need to be nice with no cracks or breaks. I do understand they will be used so a few scuffs here and there will be part of the deal. Hoping to score the nicest set I can. Thanks ! PM here or email apeine2005@yahoo.com
  2. Hello All, My 73 Q code just got hung on the rottissere and I want to make sure I get the underneath sheet metal looking like it did from the factory. This is my first Ford and first Mustang so please forgive my ignorance. The car is 100% disassembled and the bottom will be media blasted to remove all the old sound deadener and coatings. My questions are 1)Is the factory process documented anywhere ? 2)Is there any body color ? overspray ? Is it just a primer? etc ? 3) Are correct products available to reapply ? Who are the go to vendors ? I am ok using alternative or modern coatings that are higher quality as long as it looks close to original finish. 4) Is something similar in appearance to the factory Sound Deadener available ? 5) I'd like the results to be considered as factory correct as possible and to an OE gold standard. Is that info available anywhere ? Thanks !
  3. As much as I wish I could help, I can't. But I can commiserate !. I found a low mileage 73 Mach 1 Q code and picked it up. Previous owner had taken off the intake manifold and lost interest. Since the car was so original otherwise I wanted to put it back just as it left the factory. After searching all over, numerous phone calls, buying shop manuals and parts books, etc, ordering parts that did not match the ones I did know came on the car, I gave up. I just never felt confident I was going to ever get all the right parts, on top of the fact that it probably wouldn't run very well with them. Good luck !
  4. Thanks Ron, No snow here but cold ! Had a pretty big set back this week as all the parts I received for the emissions system are incorrect. I got everything for the 2V Cleveland system and did not receive the "always open solenoid" for the right rear of the intake. Working with Colorado Mustang to resolve.......Wondering now why I chose this path. lol. Oh well I enjoy the hunt.
  5. Ron, Not yet. I hope to have the intake on sometime this week. I am also waiting for the "always open solenoid" that mounts on the right rear of the manifold to arrive from Colorado Mustang. After that I believe I have all the parts as far as the emissions to be correct.
  6. Hi All, I need the vent that goes in the top of the fuel tank for my 73 Mach 1. I would need the retainer also. PM me here or Call:712 369 0565 email: apeine2005@yahoo.com Thanks !
  7. Awesome Pic Jeff ! It also answers some up coming questions I had !!!! Ron, I don't think it matters to you.... but I don't think the device in the pic is hooked up correctly after studying the vacuum diagrams. It looks like it is just plugged into itself. I did find this on ebay and saved the pic in case I needed it. This small stuff is spendy to say the least.
  8. How about the vent out of the top of the gas tank ? Would like the retainer also. Thanks !
  9. Here is it laid out as I think it goes.... 1) idle solenoid 2) Emissions Solenoid. Unused on a 351 4 V cobra jet 3) Air conditioning clutch. Unused on my non air car 4) + Coil 5) Temp sending unit 6) Choke 7) Emissions. always open solenoid 8) Emissions, always open solenoid 9) Oil Pressure sending unit Let me know what you guys think. The help and information here is incredible !!!! Thanks !
  10. Thanks guys ! I am traveling again next week so won't have time to work on it. I am going to try to take a good clear picture today with them all laid out. The colors are kind of hard to distinguish due to age and fading. For example the straight round connector in the original pic that I have as black with light green hash that the consensus is the AC clutch is identified as black with yellow hash on the diagram. To me a discolored yellow could look light green. So I am thinking that is what it is. Just odd that it is there to me on a non AC car.
  11. It has been a few day since I really dug into this so now I am questioning myself. I will try to confirm tonight, but If I remember right, the 2 unidentified are part of the alternator harness. I seem to remember finding the "always open solenoid" on the RH rear of the intake.connector in a small sub harness that also has the oil pressure switch connector and electric choke connector I will confirm that all and report back. If you look at the length of the idle solenoid wire. Which to me is pretty specific since it is oval shaped. There isn't a lot of length for those 2 unidentified to go too far. The wiring diagram will have the answer for sure so I better get these cleaned and documented. Thanks all ! Ok. colors of the 2 connectors in question and colors on all the others for confirmation. The 3 in question in the pic: Oval shaped in pic: Red (almost has to be idle solenoid ?) Round female: Black with light green hash marks (no idea on this one) Flat female spade: Brown with orange has marks (no idea on this one) The harness goes across the front of the intake manifold with 3 more connectors Round female 45 degree connector it is black: Wire is Red with white tracer (my guess either coil or temp sending unit) Round female 45 degree connector it is yellow: wire is red with green tracer (my guess is either coil or temp sending unit) Flat spade female: Tan ? white ? with a Black tracer (my guess is the electric choke) There is also a small harness that goes behind the carb it contains Flat spade female: Wire is Brown with light green hash marks. (my guess is the always on solenoid bolted to the right rear of the intake manifold) Flat spade female: Wire is Red with yellow or orange hash marks ( my guess is also to the always on solenoid on the intake manifold as it has 2 make spades) Round Female 45 degree connector it is black: wire is tan with a red tracer. (my guess is oil pressure sending unit). Hope this isn't too confusing of a description. I will try to add some pictures too later
  12. I'm not suggesting this company because I've never used their products. However, the site may be a resource to figure out what you need. Chuck http://www.powermastermotorsports.com/which_alternator_.html I have a powermaster on my Chrysler. They were very helpful when we had issues with pulley alignment with the alternator and vintage air brackets on my stroked to 496 383. Going so far as to machine the alternator case for clearance and a custom pulley. They treated me very well and I would definitely use them again, but as always experiences vary.
  13. It has been a few day since I really dug into this so now I am questioning myself. I will try to confirm tonight, but If I remember right, the 2 unidentified are part of the alternator harness. I seem to remember finding the "always open solenoid" on the RH rear of the intake.connector in a small sub harness that also has the oil pressure switch connector and electric choke connector I will confirm that all and report back. If you look at the length of the idle solenoid wire. Which to me is pretty specific since it is oval shaped. There isn't a lot of length for those 2 unidentified to go too far. The wiring diagram will have the answer for sure so I better get these cleaned and documented. Thanks all !
  14. Non Ac car..... Is it possible some are unused ? or was a different sub harness used at some point ? (It is a 22,000 mile car but anything is possible.) I will clean the wires tomorrow and note the colors and tracers. Keep the thoughts coming !
  15. Hey guys, I have a 73 q code mach 1 and unfortunately the previous owner took the intake manifold and some other parts off the Cleveland and then lost interest. I think I have pretty much so everything tracked down but can't seem to figure out these 2 connectors with the arrow's beside them. I have the 3rd one marked as the idle solenoid connection so please let me know if I have that correct also. The one on the left is round and female if I remember right and the other is flat and female spade. Note that I have the harness "pulled" quite far forward and to me these would land at just about the end of the left side valve cover. I suspected they were related to the "normally open solenoid valve" and emission's, but since my car is a cobra jet, it didn't use that configuration. It is probably something simple so take it easy on me. this is my first Ford I have tinkered with in about 25 years and I am stumped ! Help ! connectors.pdf
  16. I sent mine to Kurt at KP carbs. I understand he is a former employee of Pony (before the move) and is continuing to do that caliber of work. I didn't think it was too bad cost wise. He is finishing it up this week so I will be able to report more later on how it works.
  17. Im with Kurt after mucking around with my 73 Q i ended getting rid of all that rubbish and the car runs way better and still looks killer I ve kept the original look with air cleaner assembly and standard rocker covers but upgraded intake and carb Just out of curiosity. What did you do about the wiring for the devices you removed ? Even for me with my limited experience, if I see terminations laying around unused in the engine compartment, I wonder what's missing. There is no doubt I am the minority probably but some things like that bother me. I did consider un wrapping the harness back to where I could remove them cleanly. Another thought I had was to discretely disable the systems but keep the original look. I have done something similar with vacuum systems in the past and just used silicone to plug the vacuum hoses in strategic places. So the hoses are there but not doing anything. I would then have to figure out how to de energize the electrical but possibly not. With no vacuum signal they may just be along for the ride. Thanks Jeff ! I am traveling next week till Thursday, but will still be checking here for info and will probably have more questions also. lol
  18. Al, if you're missing any check valves, let me know. I have all the smog fittings and check valves that I pulled off my '78 Lincoln Mark V (equipped with a 400 - all 400's were 2V with exception to a few experimental Broncos, so I can't help you out with a carb plate), which may be similar to the '73 equipment on the Mustang. Can get you a photo of what I have. -Kurt Perfect ! Thanks Kurt, right now I think the priority is the 2 terminations (connectors) in the pic and figuring out what they are for. After that I will be able to figure out what devices I need. I have the 73 through 79 parts manual on a PDF but with 6000 plus pages it is not the most maneuverable document. The knowledge on this board is impressive ! You guys are awesome.
  19. Thanks for your input and all of that may very well happen. I'll decide as I chase the parts and systems. Do you happen to know what those terminations I have shown above go to ? I can't see any evidence of a smog pump being on the car. But maybe those terminations are a clue. I am hoping it is the simple Q code 4 V diagram above
  20. I seriously considered that. The car also came with a 4V edelbrock intake that I could have used. My reasoning was, flawed or not but it came down to the fact that it is a documented 22,000 mile car, rough as it is. I just felt like it deserved to be put back together the way it left the factory. At least as best as my time and resources will allow. Sometimes I get on to mysteries like this and although it can get frustrating. It is also very rewarding when I learn from research how it all goes and is supposed to work. Call me crazy, but I can spend days chasing this all down and then take 5 minutes to install the correct parts. Al, Despite what may be on car some 40 years later the 4V vacuum diagram is correct. I have seen a number of Q codes that I used to verify what would be correct for mine and they all used the 4V diagram. One way to tell for absolute certain is to see if the ambient temp switch is there #9 on diagram...if NOT then you don't have that setup. Here is the pic of the wire harness connectors that I can't tell what they are for. I have pulled the harness forward and in reality it sits more rearward. The connector that is oval shaped and laying near the front of the valve cover is for the idle solenoid on the carb. The small round female and the flat female spade hanging down a bit I thought were for another always open solenoid. Per diagram 3-14A. This would be another oddity because they should both be female flat spade, lol....So what is the small oval female and flat spade female for ? Help !
  21. We are thinking alike. Lol. I spent more than a few minutes tonight peering into the door jamb on the right side. I read somewhere that it is only visible if the fender is off. I will pull it if I absolutely have to. I took some pics of the terminations that run down the left side valve cover that I will post tomorrow. I have the coil, temp sending unit, oil pressure switch, choke, the always open solenoid valve on the right rear of the manifold and the idle solenoid connectors identified. "I think" there are 2 others that make no sense to me. Is it possible they were just unused ? Thanks for your input Jeff. Knowing that you have looked at a lot of them makes me much more confident in the 4 V diagram Lol I hear ya coupled with the fact this is my first Ford I am wondering myself. But I have always loved this body style. Friend of Mine had one in high school and I always thought it was one of the sharpest cars in the parking lot Luckily I enjoy this part of it !
  22. Great pic Jeff. That looks just like the vacuum solenoid on my car and is in the same place. Of note is that mine has a spacer under the bracket to hold it up off the manifold. I see your car also has the vacuum loop on the fire wall with 4 ports where the drawings define 2. (mine has 4 also) I am attaching a pic of vacuum diagram drawing 3-14A which is a 351 Cleveland with auto trans. I am suspicious that my car was set up this way because I have part number 2 in the heater hose circuit and part number 1 in the water pump. I also have some terminations in my engine harness that look like they were hooked to part number 5. I will take some pics of those connectors and post them to see if I am just not identifying them correctly. I'll get the wiring diagrams as well to see what clues are there. Drawing 3-16A (351 cobra jet) does not have a part number 1 in the water pump. I am trying not to get hung up on that even tho my car only has 22,000 miles. The water pump could have been switched at some point with a used one in 41 years as it obviously had a rough life, even tho it sat a lot. I still have to solve the harness question if that is true. An update to the search for the parts, Colorado Mustang has let me know that they have everything I need. I went ahead and purchased the extra solenoid and check valves just in case diagram 3-14A ends up being correct. Hopefully I will be able to post the part numbers when they arrive as he said they were new. I assumed nos but I should have asked...... I called Bob twice at Ohio Mustang. For all the good words I see about him here he has not returned my calls. I am disappointed but I am guessing he is busy.
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