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Looks like a potential "WIN-WIN" situation to me:)!!

 

This is American ingenuity and business acumen at its best. This Company sees a "need" and offers the expertise and labor to bring parts to what is obviously a niche market.

 

I tell you, it has me thinking about abandoning my pending C6 install for a manual.

 

Please keep us "in the loop" on the effort!

 

 

BT

Do the RIGHT thing.

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Looks like a potential "WIN-WIN" situation to me:)!!

 

This is American ingenuity and business acumen at its best. This Company sees a "need" and offers the expertise and labor to bring parts to what is obviously a niche market.

 

I tell you, it has me thinking about abandoning my pending C6 install for a manual.

 

Please keep us "in the loop" on the effort!

 

 

BT

 

Will do I have set a time to contact them this afternoon. So I should no more.................

 

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Looks like a potential "WIN-WIN" situation to me:)!!

 

This is American ingenuity and business acumen at its best. This Company sees a "need" and offers the expertise and labor to bring parts to what is obviously a niche market.

 

I tell you, it has me thinking about abandoning my pending C6 install for a manual.

 

Please keep us "in the loop" on the effort!

 

Hope y'all get it worked out! I sure would like to convert mine to a 5spd / TKO. I am ready to start collecting parts,just not sure on what parts are needed.All I have is the clutch / brake pedal assembly.

BT

 

Will do I have set a time to contact them this afternoon. So I should no more.................

 

 

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Looks like a potential "WIN-WIN" situation to me:)!!

 

This is American ingenuity and business acumen at its best. This Company sees a "need" and offers the expertise and labor to bring parts to what is obviously a niche market.

 

I tell you, it has me thinking about abandoning my pending C6 install for a manual.

 

Please keep us "in the loop" on the effort!

 

 

BT

 

 

why not, you can go with a toploader or TKO set up? i believe with the toploader set up all you got to do is find the c4 trans cross member. the TKO set up is a AOD cross member.

 

with both pedals being repopp'ed now, you can just unbolt your brake pedal and add the new pedals in. some people claim to have the bushing for the clutch pedal in an auto assy. if not, you reply about mustang steve being able to install roller bearings.

 

 


Hello Gents,

 

Just wanted to clear up a couple of items. The HydraMax Hydraulic kit for the 71-73 Mustangs is $589, far less than the $700 quoted. I don't know who you spoke to, but it sounds like perhaps there was a price recorded improperly in our computer. This includes everything you need for the install. There is an $89 billet reservoir upgrade available, but it is not necessary for installation as the kit comes stock with a plastic tank.

 

The system will fit the firewall of the 71-73, though the big boosters make it a bit of a tight squeeze.

 

The only complication on your car that makes it different than the 65-70 cars is that your clutch pedal is offset from the hole in the firewall for the clutch rod, making it necessary to add a small bracket to the pedal to hook up our pedal rod. We have been looking for a local car (Middle Tennessee) to do a test fit and make a turn-key pedal offset, but have yet to find a car (volunteers are welcome :D). Once we have a test car we will be able to include the bracket in the kit. Until then you are on your own, but the piece is just a small piece of steel stock and customers who have used the system so far have had no difficulties with this simple fabrication.

 

We have fitment for Toploader, Ford T10 (and GM for that matter) HD Toploader, T5, T56 and TKO.

 

Hope this clears things up. Questions are welcome.

 

is your clutch cable set up requiring a cable clutch bellhousing? i'm assuming so however.

 

 

 

Unfortunately, the clutch cable systems require a cable bell housing because the pivot stud on a cable set-up is pull-side (opposite side of the input shaft from the fork hole) and the mechanical bells have the stud on the push side, closer to the fork hole. It's hard to pull a mechanical fork, or push a cable fork.

 

how well is your clutch cable work? hows the price on that? will the cable go out the same hole as the factory rod or will we have to cut a hole for the cable?

 

 

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OK gents, after much thought and several re-designs the hydraulic system is all worked out except for a test fit, which I am doing in the morning on TNFastback's car. I have a couple of different bracket designs to fit, but both are ones we can produce in quantity within a few days of test fitment. The rest of the components are ready to go, including a really nice form-fitting firewall backing plate that fits in the cover plate that shares space with the clutch rod and the steering column. I will take some pictures when it is in the car.

 

The way I have it mocked up in our shop I think it is going to be an easy install and no mods to the pedal box.

 

Will try to post tomorrow evening. I am sure TNFastback will be posting too!

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OK gents, after much thought and several re-designs the hydraulic system is all worked out except for a test fit, which I am doing in the morning on TNFastback's car. I have a couple of different bracket designs to fit, but both are ones we can produce in quantity within a few days of test fitment. The rest of the components are ready to go, including a really nice form-fitting firewall backing plate that fits in the cover plate that shares space with the clutch rod and the steering column. I will take some pictures when it is in the car.

 

The way I have it mocked up in our shop I think it is going to be an easy install and no mods to the pedal box.

 

Will try to post tomorrow evening. I am sure TNFastback will be posting too!

 

thanks for the update, you guys are paving the way!

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Gray said he will be there in the a.m. so I have to work but it is in good hands with my uncle and cousin. Like he said I will be posting asap. I'm excited. Its the last major piece to this puzzle I call a car.

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Anxiously anticipating the good news and the accompanying photos. I would really like to go with a standard!

 

he swears its a sweet set up. I also purchased a kevlar lined clutch from him, so everything will be there tomorrow. :D

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Dang, it's like waiting for a baby to arrive. Will it be a boy or a girl, and how much will it weigh? Either way, can't wait to see the pictures! :D

 

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once he repops the pedals, you can bet alot of members here will be going with his set up.

 

however, i'll be willing to send him my old automatic pedal thats power disc so he can make the brake pedal for both power and disc or just put both attachment's on the pedal.

 

 

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once he repops the pedals, you can bet alot of members here will be going with his set up.

 

however, i'll be willing to send him my old automatic pedal thats power disc so he can make the brake pedal for both power and disc or just put both attachment's on the pedal.

 

 

 

OK, I am leaving for K'ville now, but I couldn't help but post. If we are going to re-pop the pedals your auto pedal would be great to have for reference. 2199 Summerfield Rd, Cookeville, TN 38501.

 

Careful what you offer, someone might just take you up on it. ;)

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once he repops the pedals, you can bet alot of members here will be going with his set up.

 

however, i'll be willing to send him my old automatic pedal thats power disc so he can make the brake pedal for both power and disc or just put both attachment's on the pedal.

 

 

 

OK, I am leaving for K'ville now, but I couldn't help but post. If we are going to re-pop the pedals your auto pedal would be great to have for reference. 2199 Summerfield Rd, Cookeville, TN 38501.

 

Careful what you offer, someone might just take you up on it. ;)

 

As you have learned :P

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once he repops the pedals, you can bet alot of members here will be going with his set up.

 

however, i'll be willing to send him my old automatic pedal thats power disc so he can make the brake pedal for both power and disc or just put both attachment's on the pedal.

 

 

OK, I am leaving for K'ville now, but I couldn't help but post. If we are going to re-pop the pedals your auto pedal would be great to have for reference. 2199 Summerfield Rd, Cookeville, TN 38501.

 

Careful what you offer, someone might just take you up on it. ;)

 

If xoliex's pedal isn't available or he's actively using his car, I am willing to send my factory pwr disc pedal (from an automatic car) to be used as the template since my car isn't operational right now...still waiting on that Cookeville firm to get the details completed on their hydraulic setup so I can buy it for my 71 and install the Tremec 3550. :D

 

 

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once he repops the pedals, you can bet alot of members here will be going with his set up.

 

however, i'll be willing to send him my old automatic pedal thats power disc so he can make the brake pedal for both power and disc or just put both attachment's on the pedal.

 

 

OK, I am leaving for K'ville now, but I couldn't help but post. If we are going to re-pop the pedals your auto pedal would be great to have for reference. 2199 Summerfield Rd, Cookeville, TN 38501.

 

Careful what you offer, someone might just take you up on it. ;)

 

If xoliex's pedal isn't available or he's actively using his car, I am willing to send my factory pwr disc pedal (from an automatic car) to be used as the template since my car isn't operational right now...still waiting on that Cookeville firm to get the details completed on their hydraulic setup so I can buy it for my 71 and install the Tremec 3550. :D

 

 

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my automatic pedal sits in its bracket assy and sits in my shed in the backyard. whats in my car now is the clutch pedal assy i found on ebay. it just sits and is my OEM, of course i'm going to wait it back. but maybe we can just send him pictures of the measurement of the attachment point. and of course on a powerbrake set up, the attachment point is lower than a manual brake.

 

let me know!

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OK, folks, the pictures aren't all that flattering. Too many years of getting punched in the face I'm afraid.

 

On a serious note, we had a few glitches in the design. Turns out there is only 1.75" between the frame rail and the steering joint, and that is a very tiny space to operate in. Fear not, however, I just spent the 1-1/2 hour drive back to design the fixes. Just have to put them in motion.

 

I don't know if you gentlemen realize this, but we have hydraulic solutions for every single classic Ford, Mopar and GM ride except yours. That is no accident, your pedal box is a miracle of over design and the space on your firewall is extraordinarily crowded.

 

But that's why we are the experts and I will have the fix ready next week. Will probably spend the weekend in the fab shop cranking out parts for it. I will, as promised, keep you updated.

 

Keep the faith. Gray@AP

 

P.S. I also delivered our killer Mean Street full circle Kevlar clutch on the road trip. Can't wait to get feedback on that too!


 

OK, I am leaving for K'ville now, but I couldn't help but post. If we are going to re-pop the pedals your auto pedal would be great to have for reference. 2199 Summerfield Rd, Cookeville, TN 38501.

 

Careful what you offer, someone might just take you up on it. ;)

 

If xoliex's pedal isn't available or he's actively using his car, I am willing to send my factory pwr disc pedal (from an automatic car) to be used as the template since my car isn't operational right now...still waiting on that Cookeville firm to get the details completed on their hydraulic setup so I can buy it for my 71 and install the Tremec 3550. :D

 

 

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my automatic pedal sits in its bracket assy and sits in my shed in the backyard. whats in my car now is the clutch pedal assy i found on ebay. it just sits and is my OEM, of course i'm going to wait it back. but maybe we can just send him pictures of the measurement of the attachment point. and of course on a powerbrake set up, the attachment point is lower than a manual brake.

 

let me know!

 

If you guys will work it out among yourselves I will use whichever one is easiest for you to get to and ship. Don't worry about knocking off the cobwebs, just throw it in a box.

 

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i just spent the last 30 minutes on youtube trying to find a super old video i found almost 10 years ago where a guy made a hydro system on a 65-66 set up and he mounted the master cylinder inside the car "vertically".

 

of course this is on a test stand on a bench but is showing a demonstration on how it would work. i can't find this thing to save my life now. if there was a way to do it this way, this would eliminated if we had a power booster or not.

 

its going to drive me nuts now if i can't find this video now.

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i just spent the last 30 minutes on youtube trying to find a super old video i found almost 10 years ago where a guy made a hydro system on a 65-66 set up and he mounted the master cylinder inside the car "vertically".

 

of course this is on a test stand on a bench but is showing a demonstration on how it would work. i can't find this thing to save my life now. if there was a way to do it this way, this would eliminated if we had a power booster or not.

 

its going to drive me nuts now if i can't find this video now.

 

Our systems for the 65-66 cars are quite easy to install. I was looking at an inside the car option but there is so little room up where the rod and return spring sit that the master cylinder has no room to operate. We are working on a pull-style master cylinder, but it is a ways off.

 

I would like to see the video if you find it.

 

 

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i just spent the last 30 minutes on youtube trying to find a super old video i found almost 10 years ago where a guy made a hydro system on a 65-66 set up and he mounted the master cylinder inside the car "vertically".

 

of course this is on a test stand on a bench but is showing a demonstration on how it would work. i can't find this thing to save my life now. if there was a way to do it this way, this would eliminated if we had a power booster or not.

 

its going to drive me nuts now if i can't find this video now.

 

Our systems for the 65-66 cars are quite easy to install. I was looking at an inside the car option but there is so little room up where the rod and return spring sit that the master cylinder has no room to operate. We are working on a pull-style master cylinder, but it is a ways off.

 

I would like to see the video if you find it.

 

 

 

is this set up giving you some kind of headache to come up with? so a inside the car option isn't a go huh?


http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2005/03/T56Swap/index.php

 

here is a old friend of mine from another forum, i've bought alot of my 460 parts from him when he converted to a 580+ stroker kit, march pulley, and etc set up.

 

 

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The headache is coming from the odd shape of the clutch arm, which causes the master cylinder rod to follow an arc, which will cause the rod to bend. We are fixing that with a pair of tandem spherical rod ends.

 

The other issue is that the area where the master generally resides on the firewall (in every other car on God's green Earth) sits in a 1.75" wide slot between the steering joint and the frame rail. This is a very narrow opening for a master cylinder and mount. I am working on a 71-73 mounting bracket that will be extraordinarily slim and allow the master to pivot while in operation.

 

Doing it on one car is a cake walk, however being able to put something in a box and send it to a car owner for a repeatable installation with no welding or crazy tools necessary is a trick. If the system is not relatively easy to install and durable to the tune of 100,000 pumps on the clutch pedal then I will be reading hate mail all day every day. For the sake of our customers (and my selfish desire not to get death threats) I will only put a well sorted product on the market.

 

I have designed hydraulic systems, transmission systems, shifter mechanisms, clutches and cross members so I am sure I will be able to solve the issues.

 

Wish me luck.

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Cool stuff! History in the making, sort of. Glad to be able to watch. Keep up the great work and good luck!

 

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Completed: All new suspension, rebuilt 351C H Code bored .030 over with mild cam and intake, new 3.50 TracLok, custom exhaust system

Current "mini-project": interior upgrade :-/

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