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Wow Mach123. I just read your intro thread about your 71 Mach 1. That is a much nicer car than the red Mach 1 I'm looking at...and you paid $4500 vs the $4000 price they're asking for the red one and it has a busted trans.

 

Maybe $4000 is too much???


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So from the pictures above and me not knowing anything about Mach 1s. What is the good, the bad and the ugly?::help::

 

Example,

power steering and brakes...good. :)

new set of headers in the trunk...good.

rusted hood...ugly!

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Well the red accent is interesting......I've never seen it before, but by the same token I've also learned to say that just because I haven't seen it doesn't mean that it wasn't available. The underside of the hood is ugly but the rest doesn't look that bad.

 

Just my 2 cents worth!

 

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In looking at the high res copy of the pic it seems to me that it was carefully hand painted by one of the previous owners. If I'm correct, this would be my first UN-mod to do to the car.

 

Do the red seats look stock? I know what black vinyl looks like, this looks like a red cloth of some sort.

 

The data plate couldn't be located to see the interior code.

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In looking at the high res copy of the pic it seems to me that it was carefully hand painted by one of the previous owners. If I'm correct, this would be my first UN-mod to do to the car.

 

Do the red seats look stock? I know what black vinyl looks like, this looks like a red cloth of some sort.

 

The data plate couldn't be located to see the interior code.

 

FWIW, it looks to be in a little better shape than mine when we bought it. I'm a little surprised that there is a tach on an automatic car, could have been swapped in I suppose. And, I agree on the red striping, looks like someone touched up the dash for a little flair! I'd say the seats have been recovered, and something is up with the fit on the rear.. just my 2 cents. I'd still get a look under the carpet and under the cowl :s

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But is it $4000 good? Or would I be better off trying to find a better car? Btw, the owner pulled back the carpet and found a little rust in one of the back floors &said the others looked good.

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In looking at the high res copy of the pic it seems to me that it was carefully hand painted by one of the previous owners. If I'm correct, this would be my first UN-mod to do to the car.

 

Do the red seats look stock? I know what black vinyl looks like, this looks like a red cloth of some sort.

 

The data plate couldn't be located to see the interior code.

 

Not a bad price,but after you mentioned the data plate not located to see interior code, should be one on drivers door make sure the body code is 63R,if not there look for Buck tag on radiator support behind headlights to confirm VIN # that it is a Mach 1 ( 05 ) and not a Fastback ( 02 ) with a swapped out dash

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$4000 is a fair price for both party's. The grill is broken by right head light new are available same with hood. Seats are incorrect so is red accent on dash. Need to look at cowl floor pans and trunk floors to see how bad the rust is. Rust on these cars is just how it is. History of the car is worth something. Can you here it run. I think the decal is misaligned on left 1/4 extension to trunk decal. All N all I think for $4000 its a good buy. Ive seen coupes sell in worse shape for $3500. Mike

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Again, if you are looking to go "original",order the "Marti Report." That way, there will be no question as to what "it came with."

 

Based on your posted pictures, I would purchase the car at that price (if I was interested in another one).

 

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Thanks Cobra. Before I order a Marti report I need confirmation of the VIN. I've asked the owner to take a pic of the body tag.

 

Is the VIN stamped anywhere else on the car?

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The VIN should be located at the top of the dash above the steering wheel area.

 

When viewed from outside the car, look into the driver side corner of the windshield area at the top of the dashboard. You should be able to see the VIN.

 

We can actually tell you quite a bit about the car just by the VIN.

 

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But if the dash was replaced then the one on the car now could be from another car. Since the data plate is missing (don't know why) and the seats have been changed out, the possibility exists that the dash may have been changed out as well.

 

I'm looking for other areas where the vin is located on the car.

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The part of the dash where the VIN is located is rarely changed on our ('71 - '73 Mustangs) cars.

 

It is the front part of the dash (the dash pad) that is usually changed and readily available from vendors. I would think that the dash itself is more than likely the original.

 

Of course, the other "check" would be the registration and/or title. Those documents should show the VIN. If there are problems with seeing those documents, then I would pass on the car as you may have other problems not related to the condition of the car.

 

Did I misunderstand you; have you already gotten the car?

 

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Understood about the dash VIN.

 

My state only requires a bill of sale on old cars like this? Therefore a title is not needed to register nor is a title issued when an old car is registered. The only evidence is looking at the vin # on the car. So where are all the places on the car where the vin is shown?

1. Dash

2. Body tag on radiator support.

3. Door data plate.

4. ??? Where else?

5. ??? Another spot on the frame somewhere?

 

I want to compare the vin to all the spots I can...not just the one on the dash.

 

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Not a bad price,but after you mentioned the data plate not located to see interior code, should be one on drivers door make sure the body code is 63R,if not there look for Buck tag on radiator support behind headlights to confirm VIN # that it is a Mach 1 ( 05 ) and not a Fastback ( 02 ) with a swapped out dash

 

This is what I'm trying to do by looking at all the vin #s I can see on the car, but I don't know where they all are located on the car.

 

 

 

 

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Understood about the dash VIN.

 

My state only requires a bill of sale on old cars like this? Therefore a title is not needed to register nor is a title issued when an old car is registered. The only evidence is looking at the vin # on the car. So where are all the places on the car where the vin is shown?

1. Dash

2. Body tag on radiator support.

3. Door data plate.

4. ??? Where else?

5. ??? Another spot on the frame somewhere?

 

I want to compare the vin to all the spots I can...not just the one on the dash.

 

Thanks.


Not a bad price,but after you mentioned the data plate not located to see interior code, should be one on drivers door make sure the body code is 63R,if not there look for Buck tag on radiator support behind headlights to confirm VIN # that it is a Mach 1 ( 05 ) and not a Fastback ( 02 ) with a swapped out dash

 

This is what I'm trying to do by looking at all the vin #s I can see on the car, but I don't know where they all are located on the car.

 

 

 

 

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X2. Spend 15 minutes and peek under the carpet and look at the cowl and under the battery tray. Take your digital camera with you and post what you see here, and let us help you understand what you've got.

 

Or, do like many of us did and just say, "Hurray, I'm now a Mach 1 maniac, and even if all the rusted parts and chassis fit into a mason jar, with enough welding and solder I'll bring her back to life!" LOL! Just look around this site and you'll see that it's not that far-fetched. :)

 

Bottom line - it looks like a fun project from here, but without seeing the floor pans and cowl, and not knowing your interests yet, it's still up to you. Snap a few pics and we'll talk.

 

Doc

okay...I'm new as of today. However , been around the block...even have monthly bus tickets. I would try to be in that car for 3. Still a good looking project!!!

 

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Saturday I'm going to go see the car for the first time in person. I'll take my camera, flashlight, and 30 $100 bills. I'll really take 40 of them but keep the last ten in another pocket. We will see how it goes. If the car has little rust as the owner claims then I don't have a problem handing over all 40. Well, I always have a problem letting go of cash but that is another story.

 

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Best of lucks Don!! you know we all want you to buy it! :P

Nice dealing the money in different poquets ;)

 

My bet is you get the car for... 3300 ...

 

Best of lucks and keep us posted!

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Thanks UF!

 

Any other bets? Lol

 

you did like the betting thing ahhh!!... :P we should do a pole with that!!! ;)

 

 

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33 and 35 are taken... who else? :P

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Well, there are a lot of "ifs", but if you bring up the troubles with the VIN, and that fact that the experts at 7173mustangs.com suggested $3000 and not a penny more, I'm thinking you'll still have 2 $100s and a $50 in your "other pocket". So I'm in for $3750.

 

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Just found the site and joined up. My first post to read and it looks as though today is the day! Looks like a sizeable project all in all so I hope that Don65Stang is up to a project and not hopping for a quick driver car. A better deal can be had on another Mach 1 but it would take time and possibly being willing to travel to a non-rust state. Go in with a willingness to turn around but a hope to be the new owner of a Mach 1. All the best, post some pictures - $3,000.00 will make it yours.

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Thanks Steve! And welcome to the site!

Just went bt the bank & I'm about to head up to see the car. ;)

I'll keep everyone posted how it turns out...got an hours drive to get up there first tho.

 

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but if you bring up the troubles with the VIN and the busted trans.....Offer 2800 and go from there,worst they can say is no

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