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Ok i own a 71 mustang grande now ive seen the numbers for production and my car seems to be a lot lower number produced. How rare do people consider a grande? the only car with lower production numbers is a boss 351 and a convertible. Im interested to hear everyones thoughts on this and heres why. If its more rare than a mach 1 (a crap load less produced) than i might restore it all original since i have the numbers matching stuff for it BUT if its not that rare than ill just go my own way (keep in mind i have many cars so a mod car how i like it can be done with something else)

 

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Post the numbers

 

PRODUCTION NUMBERS

Hardtop - 65,696

Convertible - 6,121

Fastback (Sportsroof) - 23,956

Hardtop grande - 17,406

Fastback (Sportsroof) Mach 1 - 36,999

Boss 351 - 1,806

 

thats for 1971 cars

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Its really a hard call. I see what you are sayin but for whatever reason right now the market is not there for our cars but its coming around slowly. I know this is not much help, but for me I am building mine the way I want it.

 

+1...we're still considered the black sheep of the Mustang community because a lot of people haven't come around to the big bodies yet. I agree with Roy, I'm going to build mine the way I want it. If I had a Boss then I would probably change my tune, but my Sportsroof isn't rare at all!

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makes sense i figured i would ask before i did my own thing with it and someone went crazy because i modified a rare car lol time for stripes and ram air hood lol

 

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That's the spirit...not only that, if you had a 1 of 1 car then it might be different, but the only way to tell would be to get a Marti report. And 1 of 1 cars are very rare indeed.

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That's the spirit...not only that, if you had a 1 of 1 car then it might be different, but the only way to tell would be to get a Marti report. And 1 of 1 cars are very rare indeed.

 

thats a good point to rare combo choice or something ill do that before i change anything on it

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i think low production numbers is not allways a good thing if its not popular in the first place....fast backs allways got more attention than grands...and i think it plays into the whole..grande was a lux car version..and the sportsroof was the renagade looking car...what kids remmeber the most..all that flash and fins and stripes...grande were usualy plain a bit....plus now days production numbers are broken down..out of the sportsroof mach 1's...only 6,568 come with the 351 4v and c6 trans...and out of the red ones..only 4 had powerwindows..lol....i think alot more orders driven the production of the sportsroof over the grande....i would run the numbers..and if it turns out too be under 300 made like it i would restore it possibly...but if high numbers..i would do what ever you felt happy with.

 

you know we almost got a cheap grande for parts..was going to take the glass and everything..till we started to notice..the glass in a grande wont work in a sportsroof..lol..weird..we measured itfront glass and side windows...and it was a inch taller lol...and if you notice the sports roof has sharp corners on the top of the glass..were the grande has rounded corners...just thought it was odd that they made the grande roof taller..maybe for the lux part..lol

 

 

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Another thought is that the Grande's were a high dollar option and therefore as many were not sold because of the expense. I believe they were going for the luxurious minded customer like the Mercury Cougar customers. I believe the Grande's are gaining more respect as the big body coupes are.

 

Suggested Retail with 302 engine:

 

2-Door Hardtop: $2,847

2-Door Sportsroof: $2,907

2-Door Convertible: $3,189

Grande 2-Door Hardtop $3,033

Mach 1 2-Door Sportsroof: $3,088

 

Then start adding options!

Mike AKA Ole Pony & Rare Pony
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Build it as you like it , keep us posted.

Like to see what you did with it.

 

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There is "rare" and there is "desireable", many times the two don't come together in the same car. It also makes a big difference what engine/trans it came with.

A Grande that came with a 429, that would be rare and desireable, and is very collectable.

Origional 4-speed/v8 cars are pretty rare and desireable too.

A small v8/automatic Grande, fairly common. I'd say, build it the way you want.

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Do it your way Adam. If you are concerned with long term value, don't do anything that cannot be undone. Hey I pro streeted a 64 GTO back in the day! I only got hollered at once, most thought it was cool.

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my way so blower through the hood stripes on the side stick vs auto i got some plans for it sub frame connectors as well ahh gotta love cars when your "i want to do ...." turns into a black hole that only sucks up lots of $$$$$$$$ lol

 

since i have white paint ill paint it that color and i might paint the stripes on since i also have a satin black paint as well. The engine cant stay stock i did drive it down the road i like the power but i always want more than i have so ill see what its like its my first 351c

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White with black stripes will look great!

Mike AKA Ole Pony & Rare Pony
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1973 Mustang Convert - Bought in 1974 - Still have it!
2004 Mach 1 Oxford White Auto, Bought Sept 06

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i figured so i dont really want it completely flat black so i think satin black would work best

 

has anyone ever blacked out like the bumpers and stuff like that ? i thought it might be an interesting idea since the chrome on mine is wearing out

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Back in the early eighties, I drove a 71 Mach for 4 years as my daily driver. The front bumper was urethane - so no issues. The rear bumper chrome began to peel. Since I did not have any spare $$ in those days, I sanded it down and did a black out treatment.

 

1st step after sanding: self etching primer. 2nd step: light even coat of NAPA rubber coating. 3rd step: Satin enamel paint. It looked like a pebble grain finish when completed. Held up for years. It also matched the lower side panel treatment (which as I recall, we also used the same steps to create a 'factory-like' finish during one of it's three repaints in 18 yrs). Total cost was about $15 for the bumper. The only downside was if something hit the finish, it would nick it leaving the spot smoother than the rest of the textured surface.

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That's the spirit...not only that, if you had a 1 of 1 car then it might be different, but the only way to tell would be to get a Marti report. And 1 of 1 cars are very rare indeed.

yes im keeping my grande totally original as its a 1 of 1!, LOL "its the only (1) i own!".

its strange ive owned 4 mustangs in my life here in Australia and i never knew about a grande until i got mine! and it really stands out in the car shows i go to as everyone else has fastbacks and standard coupes so to me its rare and special in OZ!!

 

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The Grande is the coupe body, that's why the glass is different.

Typically, most folks want the Mach 1, first, then a plain sportsroof, then convertible, then grande or coupe. Kind of a toss up on the last 2 since the body is the same, the grande just had more "dress" on it. typically the deluxe interior and a vinyl roof, chrome wheel well trim and several other pieces of trim, typically called an "appearance" package.

 

A Marti report is the key to actual production numbers and "rarity" of a particular build, as noted above about red Mach 1's with power windows.

 

I have a yellow Mach 1, 351 Cobra Jet, C6 loaded out with power windows.

I haven't seen another like it.

I also have a '73 Mach 1 with the 351 cleveland 2 barrel carb, c6 and it's pretty bare otherwise, but the Vin indicates it is a Mach 1.

 

Things were varied during the production of these cars, that's for sure.

 

i think low production numbers is not allways a good thing if its not popular in the first place....fast backs allways got more attention than grands...and i think it plays into the whole..grande was a lux car version..and the sportsroof was the renagade looking car...what kids remmeber the most..all that flash and fins and stripes...grande were usualy plain a bit....plus now days production numbers are broken down..out of the sportsroof mach 1's...only 6,568 come with the 351 4v and c6 trans...and out of the red ones..only 4 had powerwindows..lol....i think alot more orders driven the production of the sportsroof over the grande....i would run the numbers..and if it turns out too be under 300 made like it i would restore it possibly...but if high numbers..i would do what ever you felt happy with.

 

you know we almost got a cheap grande for parts..was going to take the glass and everything..till we started to notice..the glass in a grande wont work in a sportsroof..lol..weird..we measured itfront glass and side windows...and it was a inch taller lol...and if you notice the sports roof has sharp corners on the top of the glass..were the grande has rounded corners...just thought it was odd that they made the grande roof taller..maybe for the lux part..lol

 

 

 

 

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As I have gotten "older", the Grande (and other Coupes) have become much more desirable to me in our cars.

 

The reason comes down to visibility - - one can actually SEE out of the back window. I have both a '73 Grande and a '73 Mach I, both with big blocks and I envision using the Grande more.

 

I think there may be something to the idea that they will become more desirable as time marches on:).

 

BT

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Who's worried about seeing out the back window anyway?? :D:D

If you have the fold down back seat, you can put it down and lie down for a nap in back, you just need plenty of sunscreen!

 

The reason comes down to visibility - - one can actually SEE out of the back window.

BT

 

 

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Ok i own a 71 mustang grande now ive seen the numbers for production and my car seems to be a lot lower number produced. How rare do people consider a grande? the only car with lower production numbers is a boss 351 and a convertible. Im interested to hear everyones thoughts on this and heres why. If its more rare than a mach 1 (a crap load less produced) than i might restore it all original since i have the numbers matching stuff for it BUT if its not that rare than ill just go my own way (keep in mind i have many cars so a mod car how i like it can be done with something else)

 

thanks for any thoughts

 

Ok, I have a '71 Grande. Bought the car because I needed some wheels, then found out what I had. We are 2/3'rds of the way through a restoration project. Not a rotisserie/Concours job, just fixing up the interior then some body work and paint. Besides installing a new clutch (CenterForce II), the drive train is in remarkably good shape. The engine is an M-code with a wide ratio toploader. According to Marti, they only made 100 of these. You could call that rare, but what is it worth? I would never sell this car so it is a moot point. It is a cool looking car that is fun to drive. Had to get a set of license plate frames because people would say "that is a cool looking car; what is it?".

The frames read "1971 Mustang".

 

mike

 

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Make it your own. I would keep the 'grande' look but do the mods you want.

 

I might argue the fastback then sports roof then convertible but I am biased. And if you want visability you can't beat having the top down...

 

 

'Mike'

73 Convertible - 351C/4V CC heads/4bolt/forged flat tops/comp 270/rhodes/mallory unilite/tri-power/hookers/glasspacks/c6/3.50 limited slip/Gear Vendors/Global West sub frames, strut rods and shelby style traction bars/ Rear sway bar/tilt steering (not original)

 

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