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Hi to all,

 

Thought i would post up some basic info on protective paint products that are out there today. New technology has bought in new hi tech products that offer longer and better protection between applications. So ---------------

 

Wax v Sealant v Coating – what is the right Protection for you?

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With new products, adverts and different terminology appearing nearly every week now, it is very hard to understand what is true, a little over-inflated or completely false. Let alone what may be right for you and your car, or a complete waste of money – I hope this article provides a little industry insight and hopefully gives you some clear and helpful information.

 

Firstly what is right for you (and your car) may not be the best option for your friend, colleague or neighbor; it helps to ask a few questions first to try to find the right solutions to best suit you:

 

• Is your car a daily driver?

 

• Does it live in a garage; during the day and/or night?

 

• Will you be washing it? How often?

 

• How frequently do you want to reapply the protection: wax/sealant/coating?

 

• What is the color of your car and what type of look or finish do you want?

 

From these few questions you can build up a picture of the lifestyle your car will enjoy or endure and be able to offer real solutions that fit your needs.

 

To expand on this and try to explain why it is hard to estimate how long a certain product might last on your car take a couple of examples:

 

- If your car is driven 6,200 miles per year, lives in the garage or under cover day or night, you wash it weekly and use some maintenance products like spray wax or quick detailer – ‘Product A’ could easily last 12-16 months.

 

- However if your car is driven 18,600 miles per year, lives outside all day and night, only washed every month or two then it obviously comes under a lot more ‘attack’ from the environment, so the protection is going to deteriorate much more quickly – the same ‘Product A’ would probably last 6 months or less, without topping up.

 

Now a little information to try and catagorise products generally:

 

Wax – i use the term “wax” as a product containing a large percentage of natural components such as Carnauba Wax, Montan Wax, Beeswax etc. These are usually a paste form and as such found in a small tub (rather than a bottle). Waxes have been around in one form or another for many years and a lot of show car guys and pure enthusiasts would say that they deliver the best look you can get on paint, especially on dark colours. The depth and intensity are unrivalled and wax gives the paint a ‘natural glow’ improving with subsequent layers or coats. A good natural wax can last anywhere from 2-6 months on a ‘daily driver’ (however some Hybrid Waxes offer longer durability). Leading brands of premium waxes are Dodo Juice and Swissvax to name a couple.

 

Sealant – i term this as a synthetic or man-made product that is usually a liquid, usually polymer based and found in a bottle. These were created to provide more options and generally more durability than the natural waxes. They are easy to apply and remove, and most guys might say that the look is more ‘glassy or reflective’ than a wax. Good sealants can make light colours like silver (lots of metallic flake) really ‘pop’ and look dripping wet. A good sealant can last anywhere from 4 months to 12 months on a ‘daily driver’ (combination sealants offer longer durability). Sealants typically offer more water sheeting than the water beading tendency of waxes. One of the leading brands of polymer sealants is Duragloss.

 

Coating – this is a relatively new concept and term, usually tied together with a term such as Nano / Glass / Ceramic / Quartz and many more. These are very different to waxes and sealants and good ones are created from a molecular level (very high technology). Unfortunately a lot of companies are just adding these terms to regular polymer sealants to make them sound more attractive or newer. Real coatings will be in very small bottles think 30-50ml as they are very expensive to make and you will only need a very small amount to fully coat a car. The main selling point of these is the extended durability with some coatings lasting anywhere from 12 months to 36 months on average. Coatings generally offer a ‘glassy look’ similar to some polymer sealants but with more gloss on some occasions. They are generally more resistant to the climate, chemicals and other factors but can still have contamination build up on top. They are harder to apply than waxes or sealants, requiring that the paint be perfectly clean with no oils or residues at all, and they do have a longer curing period once applied, some of these can take 2-5 days to fully harden. Some of the leading names in coatings are GYEON Quartz and Nanolex

 

As stated above it is hard to give precise durability of products but as a guide:

 

- If your car is driven 6,200 miles per year, lives in the garage or under cover day and night, you wash it weekly and uses some maintenance products like spray wax or quick detailer then a wax could last 6-9+ months, a sealant 12-18+ months and a coating 36-48+ months.

 

- If your car is driven 18,600 miles per year, lives outside all day and night, only washed every month or two and do not use maintenance products then a wax may only last 2 months, a sealant maybe 6 months and a coating perhaps 18 months.

 

I always try to quote a genuine range or the ‘worst case’ scenario for product durability so you won't be disappointed – beware other brands that have huge statements like ‘lifetime warranty’ or ‘lasts 10 years’ there is nothing that lasts this long in the market – full stop! Otherwise why would the billion dollar automotive or paint companies not have these products already…

 

For me personally, i'm old fashioned, and on my Mustangs, still like to use a good quality Carnuba paste wax that has been around for a long time. This system works well for me as both my cars are kept garaged all the time except when out doing a drive. I would only clock up roughly about 2000 miles in a year as well. Application times are therefore 8 months to a year intervals on that basis for me.

 

Hope all that helps,

 

Greg.:)

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Hi to all,

 

Thought i would post up some basic info on protective paint products that are out there today. New technology has bought in new hi tech products that offer longer and better protection between applications. So ---------------

 

Wax v Sealant v Coating – what is the right Protection for you?

 

 

With new products, adverts and different terminology appearing nearly every week now, it is very hard to understand what is true, a little over-inflated or completely false. Let alone what may be right for you and your car, or a complete waste of money – I hope this article provides a little industry insight and hopefully gives you some clear and helpful information.

 

Firstly what is right for you (and your car) may not be the best option for your friend, colleague or neighbor; it helps to ask a few questions first to try to find the right solutions to best suit you:

 

• Is your car a daily driver?

 

• Does it live in a garage; during the day and/or night?

 

• Will you be washing it? How often?

 

• How frequently do you want to reapply the protection: wax/sealant/coating?

 

• What is the color of your car and what type of look or finish do you want?

 

From these few questions you can build up a picture of the lifestyle your car will enjoy or endure and be able to offer real solutions that fit your needs.

 

To expand on this and try to explain why it is hard to estimate how long a certain product might last on your car take a couple of examples:

 

- If your car is driven 6,200 miles per year, lives in the garage or under cover day or night, you wash it weekly and use some maintenance products like spray wax or quick detailer – ‘Product A’ could easily last 12-16 months.

 

- However if your car is driven 18,600 miles per year, lives outside all day and night, only washed every month or two then it obviously comes under a lot more ‘attack’ from the environment, so the protection is going to deteriorate much more quickly – the same ‘Product A’ would probably last 6 months or less, without topping up.

 

Now a little information to try and catagorise products generally:

 

Wax – i use the term “wax” as a product containing a large percentage of natural components such as Carnauba Wax, Montan Wax, Beeswax etc. These are usually a paste form and as such found in a small tub (rather than a bottle). Waxes have been around in one form or another for many years and a lot of show car guys and pure enthusiasts would say that they deliver the best look you can get on paint, especially on dark colours. The depth and intensity are unrivalled and wax gives the paint a ‘natural glow’ improving with subsequent layers or coats. A good natural wax can last anywhere from 2-6 months on a ‘daily driver’ (however some Hybrid Waxes offer longer durability). Leading brands of premium waxes are Dodo Juice and Swissvax to name a couple.

 

Sealant – i term this as a synthetic or man-made product that is usually a liquid, usually polymer based and found in a bottle. These were created to provide more options and generally more durability than the natural waxes. They are easy to apply and remove, and most guys might say that the look is more ‘glassy or reflective’ than a wax. Good sealants can make light colours like silver (lots of metallic flake) really ‘pop’ and look dripping wet. A good sealant can last anywhere from 4 months to 12 months on a ‘daily driver’ (combination sealants offer longer durability). Sealants typically offer more water sheeting than the water beading tendency of waxes. One of the leading brands of polymer sealants is Duragloss.

 

Coating – this is a relatively new concept and term, usually tied together with a term such as Nano / Glass / Ceramic / Quartz and many more. These are very different to waxes and sealants and good ones are created from a molecular level (very high technology). Unfortunately a lot of companies are just adding these terms to regular polymer sealants to make them sound more attractive or newer. Real coatings will be in very small bottles think 30-50ml as they are very expensive to make and you will only need a very small amount to fully coat a car. The main selling point of these is the extended durability with some coatings lasting anywhere from 12 months to 36 months on average. Coatings generally offer a ‘glassy look’ similar to some polymer sealants but with more gloss on some occasions. They are generally more resistant to the climate, chemicals and other factors but can still have contamination build up on top. They are harder to apply than waxes or sealants, requiring that the paint be perfectly clean with no oils or residues at all, and they do have a longer curing period once applied, some of these can take 2-5 days to fully harden. Some of the leading names in coatings are GYEON Quartz and Nanolex

 

As stated above it is hard to give precise durability of products but as a guide:

 

- If your car is driven 6,200 miles per year, lives in the garage or under cover day and night, you wash it weekly and uses some maintenance products like spray wax or quick detailer then a wax could last 6-9+ months, a sealant 12-18+ months and a coating 36-48+ months.

 

- If your car is driven 18,600 miles per year, lives outside all day and night, only washed every month or two and do not use maintenance products then a wax may only last 2 months, a sealant maybe 6 months and a coating perhaps 18 months.

 

I always try to quote a genuine range or the ‘worst case’ scenario for product durability so you won't be disappointed – beware other brands that have huge statements like ‘lifetime warranty’ or ‘lasts 10 years’ there is nothing that lasts this long in the market – full stop! Otherwise why would the billion dollar automotive or paint companies not have these products already…

 

For me personally, i'm old fashioned, and on my Mustangs, still like to use a good quality Carnuba paste wax that has been around for a long time. This system works well for me as both my cars are kept garaged all the time except when out doing a drive. I would only clock up roughly about 2000 miles in a year as well. Application times are therefore 8 months to a year intervals on that basis for me.

 

Hope all that helps,

 

Greg.:)

 

Great write up Greg! Too bad you're not local, as I'd love to have you give my car the treatment. ;)

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Wow that is so awesome stuff Greg 😎 [THUMBS UP SIGN] Thanks for sharing this austanding noglegh you soure have my friend [sMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES] Regards Lars

 

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Thanks for the positive feedback guys,

 

Babying your car has certainly moved to new levels in recent times. I guess there is never any substitute for loving care and attention to bring out the best in your beast!::thumb::

 

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Thanks for the positive feedback guys,

 

Babying your car has certainly moved to new levels in recent times. I guess there is never any substitute for loving care and attention to bring out the best in your beast!::thumb::

 

Greg.:)

 

Hey Greg, I detail out of my garage here in the states on the weekends. I've used all 3 types. With regards to wax, believe it or not there is a spray wax called optimum that provides excellence UV protection (lasts about 5 months). The sealant I use is made by menzerna (power lock) very good stuff. Menzerna polishes are what I use along with lake country hybrid pads on a flex machine. For the coatings...I really don't use these too much. Call me old fashioned but Id just rather clean my car on the regular. I've used opti seal (2.0) to seal head lights after a wet sand and polish. Just my .02

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Hi Chris,

 

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, i'm a big fan of Menzerna products myself and find them very first class and useable getting good results.

 

As well, yes, the spray on waxes coming out today are really good, or are getting better in offering great backup protection to your paint finish.

 

As for coatings , well i tend to agree with you in that i don't get into them myself because of cost, tricky application etc. Atmospheric and water borne contaminations, other than uv damage, are the worst problems confronting driver's paint finishes today, and any protection laid on a car's paintwork will end up having fallout or contamination build up on that protective film. Removing that contamination is the main issue to address for any car owner.

 

Cheers,

 

Greg.:)

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I put a ceramic coating on my daily driver (2016 Fiesta ST) and I love it. Most of the dirt just washes right off, it is MUCH easier to wash, when it rains is washes most of the dirt right off!

 

Sounds good Nick,

 

What product did you end up going for?

 

Greg.:)

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Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Coating Elite Kit from AutoGeek. I would NOT suggest it, it's overpriced, the applicators don't work that well, and the glass protection failed in under a week. The main paint coating is alright. I recently bought a coating from AmmoNYC and their skin sealant I will be applying, comes out cheaper and should work better

I put a ceramic coating on my daily driver (2016 Fiesta ST) and I love it. Most of the dirt just washes right off, it is MUCH easier to wash, when it rains is washes most of the dirt right off!

 

Sounds good Nick,

 

What product did you end up going for?

 

Greg.:)

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While this is not a protection product I can't recommend enough of this product called IRON X. I use this on all my cars after I wash and before I clay them. This produce is excellent for removing contaminants and fallout that gets into your clear. It's PH balanced so its safe for wheels and pretty much anything. One word of warning though....it has a pretty strong smell. You spray it on and watch it turn purple as it does its thing.

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Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Coating Elite Kit from AutoGeek. I would NOT suggest it, it's overpriced, the applicators don't work that well, and the glass protection failed in under a week. The main paint coating is alright. I recently bought a coating from AmmoNYC and their skin sealant I will be applying, comes out cheaper and should work better

I put a ceramic coating on my daily driver (2016 Fiesta ST) and I love it. Most of the dirt just washes right off, it is MUCH easier to wash, when it rains is washes most of the dirt right off!

 

Sounds good Nick,

 

What product did you end up going for?

 

Greg.:)

Thanks Nick,

 

Copy that.::thumb::

 

Greg.:)

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Given my reluctance to do any actual cleaning or detailing that goes beyond washing on any car I'd like a wax/sealant that applies itself. Any recommendations? :)

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I'm not sure if you can have it shipped over there, but this is what I like using: http://adamspolishes.com/shop/exterior/waxing-and-glazing/adam-s-h2o-guard-gloss.html

Not only does it make drying the car easier, but it adds a small layer of wax that always leaves the car feeling smooth and slick. I've tried Turtle Wax's wax as you dry and it doesn't come anywhere near what the Guard n' Gloss can do.

 

 

Given my reluctance to do any actual cleaning or detailing that goes beyond washing on any car I'd like a wax/sealant that applies itself. Any recommendations? :)

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