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Its been a while since i was last here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

There has been a lot going on with the car but getting nowhere fast!!!!!!!!!!

 

The engine is back together and sprayed Ford corporate blue. The headers have been bead blasted with glass beads at 20 PSI along with steering box, carb, rear brake drums. Evereything came up like brand new. The headers have been sprayed with a heat resistant Spray that looks same colour as original cast iron. The engine should be back in within 3 weeks and back on the road.

The underside has had a bare metal strip. Next job is to remove bad metal on left boot drop off. Weld new panel in then spray underside.

I will post some pics once these jobs are complete.

Jobs for the coming autumn/winter will be to bare metal the wheel arches and trunk & then respay those areas.

Another job for the coming winter will be doors, deck lid, hood, front wings will be dipped and stripped. I found a company here in the UK that will dip and strip the whole car(wish i found them 12 months ago)  http://www.envirostripgbltd.com/

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Removed the black backplate and lights yesterday to reveal the original colour of the car. I was blown away by the brightness of the colour and getting excited about how its going to look when sprayed.

The black at either end has got me baffled. You can see where masking tape used to be. Would this have been done in the factory?

I reckon thats the first time since November 1970 that backplate has been off.

The other thing that baffled me was when i took the rear quarter extensions off there was just a grey primer when the undercarriage and inner doors were red oxide. There is a slight wave in the rear panel that houses the light cluster. Maybe its a repair.

Enjoying getting into the bones of this car and seeing how Ford did things.

You can probably see theres a new gas tank and straps added along with some new leaf springs. The bolts are not correct but i do have the concourse chassis bolt kit from AMK arriving soon.

Finally feel like there is some progress taking place. Its hard to believe its been 13 months since purchase of the car. Things take so long to order, get delivered and then fit. Time flys while the work crawls along.

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The black you are seeing on the rear panel is factory. As you can see it was sprayed when they did the engine bay, the lower black out if a decor group and then the color was put on over the black. The black was between the tail light and the black panel to improve the look. I have seen some with black around the gas filler also but not all. This pic is my 73 vert that is original factory paint also yellow. I believe they used gray primer on all cars since it is a neutral color and works the best for any top color. Under the cars they might have used red oxide when low on the slop paint. Wish we could find a worker from then to explain why.

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The black was applied on the inside edge of the taillight housing and should also be around the gas filler hole.  This was to avoid the body color appearing in the gaps between the back trim panel and the other parts.  There is a ford diagram of this in their body manual. I do not have that handy, but this is how I did mine.

 

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72 Mach 1 H-Code (Concourse driven restoration)

67 S-Code Factory GT with 4-Spd

68 Mercury Cyclone (Pro-Street project)

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Thank You for clearing that one up. It looks like black around the filler cap was a variable. Bkdunha had it around the filler cap and Carolina mountain mustang never.

It was was the removal of my filler neck that peaked my interest as i could see original lime green through the gasket holes. Thats what made me take the light cluster panel off. I wanted a piece of paintwork that had never had any light exposure so i could take a chip from it to gtake to the paintshop for matching.

 

BKdunha your car looks fantastic ::thumb:: :thankyouyellow:

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Its been a tough and dirty day today.

I removed what was left of the interior roof trim. Taken the seats out. Removed carpets and sound deadener.

The idea was to clear out all the parts i stored in the car but that lead to me sweeping out a bucket full of dust and dirt.

After the carpet and sound deadener came out i was shocked at just how much the rustworm had eaten in the rear floor pan. Its a total mess. There is also a 6 inch long by 1/8 inch hole on the driver floor.

So tomorrow the car will go off to the welder to get it sorted out.

 

:huh: One day the engine will go back in :shootself:

Steve

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I'm sure most of us have had these unwelcome discoveries but I look at it as a learning experience

Would never have taught myself to weld or fabricate panels and now value these skills

I could have chosen to buy a $40-50K vehicle already restored but I would never have valued it as much as a vehicle I restored myself despite the cost

Respect for going the concourse route Steve not something I would do especially for a bog standard coupe but perhaps the next Mustang?

Look forward to some pics of your progress

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It looks like its good news week this week.

The wheel arches should be resprayed next week.

The engine should be back in by the end of August.

Door panels have arrived after 14 months of ordering them. SMS agreed to throw in some vinyl to re-cover the dashpad FREE of charge.

The condensor has been tested and re-sprayed for the equivalent of $50.

Mike of Motor City Mustangs hoses for A/C arrived. They will go to the glass bead blaster to get dealt with.

A/C Filter drier arrived

A/C Pulley arrived

Hub Caps arrived

Replacement rear valance arrived

Concourse parking brake cable

Grille moldings

Headlight Rings

Rear side markers

So the plan for next month is to have all engine and mechanical done. Rip out the A/C box and heater box and get everything restored and running.

After that there will be a lull while i source parts and get the cash together for the re-spray, headliner fitting, vinyl roof trim renovated, sprayed and fitting, vinyl roof fitting, all new glass and fitting. Realistically i reckon next easter before i am at the stage where the exterior is finished and start on the interior

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Its been a while since i updated my build thread. I have posted jobs i have completed elsewhere but wanted to keep it all together

 

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Engine bay is 95% there. Theres just some parts to re-visit

 

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Although originally had a single exhaust i wanted to let the engine breath a little more so i added a twin exhaust. The car sounds far far better now

 

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The brake spring has to tackled

 

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I have to re-visit some of the paintwork because of a brake fluid leak stripped the paint away

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Blower motor was replaced. A/C-Heater box stripped down and had all the metal parts replated. The heater core was leaking like a sieve so that was replaced and tested before it went back together

 

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Heater-A/C box back together with all new seals. Evaporator was tested and found no leaks :D  Condensor was tested and had no leaks :D  I have all new vacuum motors from Classic Air. I took members advice and had some motors that had been refurbished instead of generic.

Everything has now arrived to re-install the A/C. I had brackets from Don :D  They are being worked on right now

 

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The brackets after a de-grease. The middle bracket looks to be in the best shape for rust

 

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The bracket at the top was the middle bracket in previous picture. What i thought had least rust turned out to have the most rust. So glad i got the paint stripper on them.

I bought some rust remover. The one i bought is a re-usable one. I have the smallest bracket soaking in the rust remover. It will stay soaking till tomorrow morning when i will zinc plate it.

The zinc bath is being primed up today and i will leave a piece of zinc connected to each annode till tomorrow. That should be plenty of time for the bath to be ready to accept, Eve, its first customer

 

I think that just about sums up whats been happening over the autumn/winter period apart from spending spending spending on yet more parts in preparation for this years push to get the car a lot further down the road

Steve

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Great work Pegleg! You are putting alot of time, effort, and money into this. Sorry I had to add the money part, but it is a reality. If you would like to see what a single exhaust looks like here is my car as an example. Also, I noted you had the center section in black on the rear axle. For concourse that should be red oxide. Not sure if you have revised your plans from concourse over time. It happens, just wanted to help id still going down that path.

 

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72 Mach 1 H-Code (Concourse driven restoration)

67 S-Code Factory GT with 4-Spd

68 Mercury Cyclone (Pro-Street project)

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Great work Pegleg!  You are putting alot of time, effort, and money into this.  Sorry I had to add the money part, but it is a reality.  If you would like to see what a single exhaust looks like here is my car as an example.  Also, I noted you had the center section in black on the rear axle.  For concourse that should be red oxide.  Not sure if you have revised your plans from concourse over time.  It happens, just wanted to help id still going down that path.

 

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Thank You for your feedback. The other thing i noticed on your car is the spring perches are grey or silver and not black. I am trying to stay true to original but as you know origial parts/NOS are expensive. Where i can restore i am. Where there is repop that looks same i will use. The judging here in UK is nowhere near the standard you guys have to come up to. I will make changes based on your pictures now i have a true reference to work with ::thumb::   How did you get the right shade for those painted stripes yellow, green, pink, red?

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Yes, the spring perches are "natural" steel. Basically from the factory they were bare steel. Mustang Club of America rules allow for a painted finish to duplicate the factory finishes. The painted finish is to allow you to fend off the rust and corrosion a bare steel part would experience. I am fortunate that I located my build sheet 30+ years ago when I was a teenager and this being my first car. I saved that and it has the codes for the paint colors on the driveshaft. If you are careful cleaning your drive shaft with mineral spirits you may be able to locate the color stripes on yours. If you car is a 351 V 2V (H Code) with an automatic (FMX) and a 9" rear you will probably have the same paint codes. I will help out any way I can to help you reach your goal. If you have not already printed the rules out from the attached post in the Concourse category you may want to. It will help you towards your concourse goal.

 

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BKDunha

72 Mach 1 H-Code (Concourse driven restoration)

67 S-Code Factory GT with 4-Spd

68 Mercury Cyclone (Pro-Street project)

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Its been a productive day today. I got some of roof trim de-glued. What a PITA that job was. It had been baked in Arizona for 45 years. The wire brush needed plenty of elbow grease. Used a stainless steel scourer and then triple zero wire wool. Where the glue came away the zinc plating came away. The parts are ready to be zinc plated just as soon as i find a bath to accomodate the parts. I also got one of the spring plates polished up after using zinc bath. Final part to get prep for zinc bath was the plate the dash screws to

 

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The 2 pieces of roof trim with jagged pieces i left till last. They are going to be a massive PITA and no doubt i am going to end up with chunks missing from my fingers by the end of the process

Steve

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I have plated all 5 brackets with zinc to give them another 50 years protection

 

 

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The 3 A/C brackets have been sprayed black

 

 

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With a BIG Thank You to BKDHUNA i sprayed the spring perches the correct metal grey.

 

Now working on plating the long bracket that the dashpad screws on to

Steve

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I've seen behind the scene the efforts you've put into these, how well restored and plated all these parts were.

If only parts could talk!

73 modified Grande 351C. (Finally back on the road woohoo!) 

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Another piece of iron zinc plated and protected for another 50 years. Each piece brings new learning with zinc. The rear of this dash pad plate was a royal PITA to do

 

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When I see the red relaxing bed, I see you were literally serious about giving them a massage :)

I can't even remember seen one of these for decades, but I bet this got to be the nicest one!

73 modified Grande 351C. (Finally back on the road woohoo!) 

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I'm starting to get plating envy guys, and i never even thought I would even consider it! But i think its the way to go to truly prevent the dreaded rust coming back and to ensure longevity of the parts. Now to do the research !

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I'm starting to get plating envy guys, and i never even thought I would even consider it! But i think its the way to go to truly prevent the dreaded rust coming back and to ensure longevity of the parts. Now to do the research !

 

Definately worthwhile learning a new skill. The process from de-rust to plate is quite simple in theory but does require some effort and thinking outside the box. I was lured into the plating world by Fabrice. I never thought i would consider it either but i have enjoyed the learning process that just keeps on asking questions with differant shaped parts.

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Steve, what size metal for the zinc and nickel plating anodes should i get from ebay ? I will be doing a lot of plating and the prices are quite dear so want to make sure i order the right amount

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