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Looks like that was a Texas car that got hose washed a couple times a week to feed the rust. It is not just road salt that rusts bare metal and in the cracks and joints that hold the water. I have said many times never wash your car with hose or car wash. Just a bucket of water and towel and wipe it down and NO RUNNING WATER.

You seem to be moving along even with the speed bumps that keep jumping up. Great work I am sure you will inspire others to do some work. I see numbers some throw out for repairs for shop time and think there is no way I would pay for that. Too many leaning on the shovel handles in some shops.

Good to hear you are letting the primer do a final shrink. I have had some argue that it does not matter today. Prime it sand it and paint it. I think not. Years ago you needed several weeks to let everything shrink down before final sand. I let one set for several months back in the 70's. My friend that does them likes to have three cars going so you can let them set but still stay busy.

Great work.

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Kevin, maybe I missed it but what tool(s) are you using to remove the existing paint?

A Dynazip style wire wheel? Followed up by ???

Looks great!

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Thanks guys. Its coming along. I got the driver side door metal work done today. These doors looked a lot better than they actually were. I ended up replacing a 29 " section of the bottom of the door and a couple inches at each end of the door. Sure would be nice if they would start repopping some skins for these doors. The seam was shot on this door. It turned out pretty good though. Just a helpful hint for anyone doing a long butt weld. Whether its on a door, or quarter panel. Make sure you move around a lot and don't put too much heat in the panel. I even keep a wet rag with me to cool the panel after every weld. Then when you are grinding make sure not to generate too much heat. Grinding can cause the panel to warp just as easy as welding, so be careful. I use a wet rag to cool my grinding too. So just keep that in mind and your butt welds should turn out really nice.

Thanks for all the replies guys. Nice work on your doors Jay! Luckily I didn't have to get into the inner structure too much... mainly just the bottom seam.

I'm hoping to have these in primer this week. And as David said I will let them set a couple weeks before I start block sanding them.

Well heres some pics. The pic with all the black marker circles are all the door dings I have to fix too..... :huh:

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1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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Kevin, maybe I missed it but what tool(s) are you using to remove the existing paint?

A Dynazip style wire wheel? Followed up by ???

Looks great!

 

Pete,

I was using a wire wheel on a 4 1/2" grinder to get the scaly big rust off. I used 80 grit on a DA to do the out surface of door. And I used a 2" Roloc by 3m with 50 grit wheel on my air angle grinder to grind everything down. Lots of hand sanding the nooks and crannies with sandpaper and scotch brite pads.

Kevin
1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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I'm so glad my doors aren't in need of this type of repair. It looks tedious.

 

Rewarding when you do a good job, but tedious nonetheless.

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What do you use to cut out the bad spots? I tried a 4 inch angle grinder and it just seems to big for corners and what not.

 

I use a 4 1/2" angle grinder with whiz wheel for the big cuts. I use a small air powered 2 1/2" whiz wheel for the small cuts. And a body saw for some cuts if the other two won't fit. Don't be too worried if your cut goes a little to far in the corners, you can easily weld those slices up. And if you need to make rounded corners you can use a drill and bit with the radius you want then connect the 4 corner holes with one of the 3 cutting tools I mentioned. Here's a pic of the main cutting tools I use. And in the other pic you can see where I had to slice a little further than I wanted. But that was easily filled with weld.

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1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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Thanks. Makes me want to try to repair my doors rather than look for replacements!

 

Give it try. Nothing to lose. It's just metal, you can always put more in if you mess up a cut. But have yourself a cheap metal brake, set of body hammers and dollies. Also a decent welder. Most of the small hand tools you can get from harbor freight. Biggest investment will be a welder but you can get a decent 110volt welder for panels. Here's some of my stuff. Let me know if you have any questions and don't be afraid to cut some stuff up!::thumb::

 

 

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1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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"How come Kevin always gets the good stuff?!"

 

My buddy used to say that in his best whiny voice whenever I'd do something cool at the shop. Cracks me up every time.

 

Nice stuff, BTW! No wonder you're kicking so much arse on this - it really pays to have the right tools. ::thumb::

Eric

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Yeah eric you gotta have the right tools. I remember using my vise and a couple pieces of angle iron to make bends in sheetmetal. The brake is so nice to have around. There's a ton of tool I want but I have enough to get by!  lollerz  I was able to get the passenger door finished tonight. Ready for primer and hopefully be able to spray both doors this weekend. Ready to start fenders! Keep on keeping on. 

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1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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Quick update. Got the backside of the doors seam sealed and primed today. Should be able to get the fronts shot tomorrow. 

 

 

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1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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You do nice work. I was curious whether or not you use ospho to neutralize the rust you can't get at or see surrounding your areas of repair.

 

Thanks Ray. I do seal up the rust with a type of rust encapsulator. I did the inside of the door and inner door seam with it. I just brush it on. I don't know what it is or the name of it. My buddy works on boilers and steam pipes and hooked me up with it. It seems to work pretty well. You brush it on and it's white. When it comes in contact with rust it turns purple. I used it on the frame of my truck few years ago and my doors. They are still holding up well. 

I wasn't able to get the front of the doors primed today. I caught the flu bug and been laid up sick all day! Hopefully early this week get them shot in primer.

Kevin
1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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That sounds like the same reaction as ospho. There are other brands out there . That helps a great deal at slowing down or even stopping future problems. Sorry to hear about the flu bug. Yuck . That'll slow ya down a bit. Are you guys getting the monster snow up there or did it miss ya?

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Thanks guys. Yeah this flu kinda kicked my butt yesterday and a little today. I was really wanting to get those doors primed, but there's always tomorrow. As far as the snow, we haven't got much of anything! Very mild winter here in PA so far. Couple inches here and there then it all melts away. Saturday it was 55*. This morning its 22* and about 2" of snow. By Saturday and sunday it is supposed to be 60* Damn you El NINO!!! But it makes for heating the garage much easier.

Kevin
1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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Got the doors primed tonight. I said f- this cold. Gotta get something done can't lay around 2 days in a row. Couple bud lights and good to go!   lollerz   Here's a few pics. On to the fenders. 

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1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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Amazing what you can do! Very nice result so far! I wished I was so handy and had the space... I have the bright molding strips on the side as well. These photo's are very handy ! If you have time, when you install the bright molding strips again , can you take some more photo's? Thanks for sharing so far!

 

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Not much to report this week. Stupid cold has been kicking my a**. Going to try to get back at it hard this weekend and get the passenger fender and front bumper ready for primer. We ended up punting on the driver side fender. Found a lot more rot than originally thought! What started as a hole about the size of a quarter turned into a hell of a mess. And it was pretty dented and crinkled at the bottom of the fender. Even the support bracket on the back was rotted and damaged. I know I could of fixed it, but the time I would of had in it would of been pretty substantial. And getting the curve just right would of been a challenge. So we decided to just order a new fender from Dynacorn. Heres a couple pics of the fender and I got the door hinges bead blasted too. They turned out good. Hopefully see more progress this weekend.

 

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1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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Well I got the door hinges done. Got the passenger fender all sanded down, body worked, and primed. Same with the front bumper. It all turned out pretty good. Waiting for the driver fender to show up now. Probably get started on blocking the body and welding up the front apron repairs. Here's a few pics gentlemen. Enjoy!!

 

 

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1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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