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I'm sorry, did you say 3 1/2 GALLONS to fill the c4?

 

Probably closer to 3 as was converting from litres

Having used a large convertor made into a higher stall, new cooler and lines it took nearly all 12 litres

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I love those valvecovers! Beautiful engine! :)

Daniel ::thumb::

 

Pro-Touring 1973 Mustang named ''Creator'' ... :P

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After a long 6 months wait my donor window filler panel finally turned up so it was time to get this installed so I can continue with the panel work

First thing to do was to separate the upper panel from the lower section by drilling out the spot welds then I got my blaster to blast underneath and all the edges

These areas were epoxy primed prior to welding in place.

Unfortunately the blasting had popped the panel causing some oil canning but this could be fixed later and luckily my blaster being a panel beater had the right equipment along with experience to fix this

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Next was to drill out the old window panel, remove it and prep for welding

Main problem here is it is virtually impossible to drill out the spot welds at each end where it meets the quarters as these are underneath so the easier solution was to cut the ends close to the join then once the upper panel is removed simply grind off the spot welds or you could even drill them if you wish

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Next was to clean up all areas to be welded and apply some weld through primer

One issue I faced was whether I could plug weld the ends and although possible I wasn't prepared to get my 6 foot frame inside the trunk to upside down weld a few plug welds so for the end sections I decided it would be a much better proposition to glue this area which would also help seal it more effectively

One thing must be mentioned it is very important to do a mock up fitment then install the trunk lid to ensure everything lines up. Luckily it was spot on lining up with the old marks!

Once all prep is done and alignment is checked it was time to clamp everything in place and weld it in

A tip when plug welding along the weatherstrip channel is to close up the mig shielding nozzle with a vice a little so it will squeeze into the channel

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Next was the tedious job of grinding the welds smooth, removing old paint, repairing oil canning, epoxy primer, filler, epoxy then high build primer, blocking down and a last coat of primer, nearly ready for paint

One job finally done and what a relief

Hopefully after I fix a few panel gaps and get the aftermarket hood straightened out I will be closer to getting some color on the car

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Well what can I say but good news and bad news.

After more than 2 years I finally got some color on my coupe, 3 coats single stage Baslac urethane - Bright Red

Drove 2 hours to Perth as I had rented a spray booth

Very hot day 42 deg C/107 F

Tried my best to keep sweat off the paint but got one area which should buff out

All in all a pretty neat job apart from some dust nibs and the sweat streak

Went to drive the car back on the trailer but it ran out of gas, no problem though just winched it on

My problem was going to be getting it off the trailer by myself as normally would drive it off but no time to get gas and prime the carb plus I had to get the trailer back on time

As I have done it before my plan was to roll the car off the trailer and put some large blocks of wood as a back stop

Got home and in a rush I prepared to roll it off the trailer but didn't allow enough room for it to roll to a near stop

When it rolled off the trailer it picked up speed then the back wheels rolled right over the wooden blocks and into the vehicle behind it

I rushed to the rear of the car to inspect the damage, I can't repeat all the swear words here but when I saw the damage my heart sank

Right now I'm very disappointed in myself and won't post the damage photos yet but I have damaged the rear tail panel, trunk lid and rh quarter

I should be able to repair the tail panel/quarter but reckon the trunk lid is not repairable

The good news - I have plenty of spare paint to repair my mistakes!

Photos before the accident below, back to kicking myself profusely

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Sorry to hear that buddy! And you don’t have to post the accident photos if you don’t want to. I hope you can show us finished car pics soon :-)

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Thanks Vinnie

I haven't actually taken photos of the damage yet but might post some later once I calm down

Not game to open the trunk yet either as I fear the trunk floor might have been pushed in a little

My initial assessment is I will definitely have to pull the whole corner out which will help get the crease out of the quarter panel

I have some hydraulic rams (Porta-power) but doubt they will be strong enough so may have to pay a panel beater for some rack straightening

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Back when our younger son was in college he had a '74 Super Beetle that he crunched the left rear on. I drilled some 1" holes in the floor of the workshop that I could use for anchor points and chained the front of the car to a couple of them and used a come-along to put a pull on it while I used hammer and dolly on the bent sections. It came out surprisingly well, didn't have to replace anything. It even had a little deflection in the C pillar that came out as I got the rest of it worked into shape.

 

We had planned on doing some upgrades to the car, anyway, and this was a good time to do it. Put in a 2,010cc engine from Bernie Bergmann, an upgraded transaxle with different gearing, wider fiberglass fenders, suspension upgrades, wide rims and tires, some gauges, and a few other things. For a Beetle it ran really well, pulled 75mph in 3rd, and kept pulling strong in 4th, don't know how fast, the speedometer ended at 90. Due to the stroking, the torque improvement was amazing, didn't have to shift from first to second until 30+mph, instead of 20 with the stock engine and transaxle.

 

 

“If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.”

--Albert Einstein

 

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Back when our younger son was in college he had a '74 Super Beetle that he crunched the left rear on. I drilled some 1" holes in the floor of the workshop that I could use for anchor points and chained the front of the car to a couple of them and used a come-along to put a pull on it while I used hammer and dolly on the bent sections. It came out surprisingly well, didn't have to replace anything. It even had a little deflection in the C pillar that came out as I got the rest of it worked into shape.

 

We had planned on doing some upgrades to the car, anyway, and this was a good time to do it. Put in a 2,010cc engine from Bernie Bergmann, an upgraded transaxle with different gearing, wider fiberglass fenders, suspension upgrades, wide rims and tires, some gauges, and a few other things. For a Beetle it ran really well, pulled 75mph in 3rd, and kept pulling strong in 4th, don't know how fast, the speedometer ended at 90. Due to the stroking, the torque improvement was amazing, didn't have to shift from first to second until 30+mph, instead of 20 with the stock engine and transaxle.

 

Thanks Don, inspiring story

I will be considering having a go at it using anchor points, chains and my pulling ram

The trunk lid I'm not sure I can fix yet but will check it out, new one $450 ouch!

Just disappointing for this to happen only hours from new paint, giving it a rest for a while until I get the enthusiasm back

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Finally got up the courage to have a better look at the damage

Main damage is below the tail lamp, the crease in the quarter panel and the trunk lid which is a write off

Will have a break for a while and slowly have a go at pulling the worst of it out

Luckily the quarter crease is before the wheel arch so can hammer & dolly it although may have to cut the crease when I pull it then weld it up

Still kicking myself but will recover, I think?

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aw man... I know the energy you put into this baby. The excellent repair you did on the rear window filler, so sorry to see this.

When I got my 73 back from paint the first time like 25 years ago, spend the day after to put most of the accessories back and went for a ride. The cleveland freshly rebuild, I could not resist to burn bits of rubber and did some smoky circle... only I forgot the batt that I got relocated into the trunk wasn't secured yet. They was a loud bang. I let you guess what the batt attached to a long cable did from the inside to the bling bling quarter...

 

So yeah, don't be too mad at yourself, we all do mistakes and we usually do them when a fresh paint is applied, not before! Tho looking at the damage, you are one unlucky B.. :(

 

The paint job you did looks awesome.

73 modified Grande 351C. (Finally back on the road woohoo!) 

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Oh man OzCoupe72, that’s a real bummer. I kinda know how you feel. I got into an accident with my car, but I didn’t do all the really nice work like you did myself. Either way, it really does hurt. Hopefully you will be able to pull most of it out with minimal replacement. Good luck with your repairs.

John - 72 Q Code

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aw man... I know the energy you put into this baby. The excellent repair you did on the rear window filler, so sorry to see this.

When I got my 73 back from paint the first time like 25 years ago, spend the day after to put most of the accessories back and went for a ride. The cleveland freshly rebuild, I could not resist to burn bits of rubber and did some smoky circle... only I forgot the batt that I got relocated into the trunk wasn't secured yet.  They was a loud bang. I let you guess what the batt attached to a long cable did from the inside to the bling bling quarter...

 

So yeah, don't be too mad at yourself, we all do mistakes and we usually do them when a fresh paint is applied, not before! Tho looking at the damage, you are one unlucky B.. :(

 

The paint job you did looks awesome.

 

Thanks Fabrice, don't know if I can forgive myself for this one, I should have known but in hindsight all the excitement at getting my freshly painted baby back home was not thinking clearly, perhaps the paint fumes?

The 4WD it hit was on axle stands and it actually pushed it off the stands, unluckily it hit the 4WD bumper reinforcement which is why so much damage to the Mustang

Anyway already planning to utilize the big palm tree out the front as an anchor to pull it out

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Oh man OzCoupe72, that’s a real bummer. I kinda know how you feel. I got into an accident with my car, but I didn’t do all the really nice work like you did myself. Either way, it really does hurt. Hopefully you will be able to pull most of it out with minimal replacement. Good luck with your repairs.

 

Thanks John and hope your vehicle is coming along well, it is in good hands and look forward to seeing you get it back

We all learn from our mistakes and this one will teach me a few lessons

Unfortunately the trunk lid is toast but hopefully can get one from the other side of the country, don't want to wait 3-4 months again!

Fell off the horse(pony) just need to get back on it!

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Yeah, the trunk lid might be the hardest, due to the double panels. I knew a really good bodyman many years ago. When everyone else was using screws and slide hammers he would drill 1/8" holes and use a homemade puller that had a wooden handle on the one end and a stiff rod with an "L" on the business end with about a 3/8" long leg on the "L". He would hook the puller in and pull on it with one hand and tap around the dent with the other. He could get dents and creases pulled out within an 1/8" of original, weld the holes shut, just need a skim of filler.

 

 

“If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.”

--Albert Einstein

 

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Yeah, the trunk lid might be the hardest, due to the double panels. I knew a really good bodyman many years ago. When everyone else was using screws and slide hammers he would drill 1/8" holes and use a homemade puller that had a wooden handle on the one end and a stiff rod with an "L" on the business end with about a 3/8" long leg on the "L". He would hook the puller in and pull on it with one hand and tap around the dent with the other. He could get dents and creases pulled out within an 1/8" of original, weld the holes shut, just need a skim of filler.

 

After having a better look yesterday I saw the skin had separated from the frame rib and was buckled

I found a good way for pulling some dents especially long ones is to weld some large washers along the dent and depending which angle either a bar or bolt through the washers or a set of hooks then use a slide hammer or puller. Works well for those who don't have a stud welder and will use this method for pulling below the tail light panel, which is worse than it looks in the photo

As they say six ways to skin a cat and no matter what way the cat is still skun!

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Decided to leave the panel damage I had inflicted and not being sure I could repair it myself had lined up a panel beater to have a look at it.

 

While waiting for a new trunk lid and the panel beater I decided to keep going with the project so installed the headliner which wasn't as hard as I thought just a bit tedious at 5 hours to do it. Came out pretty good and although a couple of minor creases at the rear I'm happy with it.

 

Also removed the rear axle assembly as I wanted to modify the brackets for the emergency brake so I fabricated some new brackets then welded them on.

 

Anyway the trunk lid turned up surprisingly early but no reply from the panel beater so after a lot of thought I decided I should at least have a try at it seeing as I had a Porta-Power hydraulic puller and plenty of chains.

 

I took my time pulling a section at a time to gradually pull it out also using the hammer and dolly while it was under tension

I really didn't expect to have much success but by the end of the day was very happy with the progress

Had to shrink a few areas using both the MAP torch and the shrinking disc

Tomorrow will be more hammer and dolly work, filler and primer but first will have to check panel alignment and make adjustments

My next issue is dealing with the bent trunk hinges which could be a bit tricky

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Looks great OzCoupe72! Sure glad you had success pulling the damage back out. Looks like your the only panel beater you need, lol. 

Anyway, great job and hopefully your mistake will just be a memory to learn from.

John - 72 Q Code

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Great work, that's the spirit!

Your luck might even be back, as you painted it unicolor red, it wil be more easy than patching a metallic paint.

Nightmare's almost over m8!

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Still working on the rear end damage but making some progress. Took a bit of work to bend the trunk hinge back into shape and made a clamping tool to help pull it back.

Tack welded the new trunk skin and seam sealed the edge so while I had the rest of the day I decided to get the front of the car back together.

 

I had removed the grille moldings and of course the tabs broke so I glued most of them back on. Painted the grille to black it out and went to put the moldings back on but some of the tabs broke again so will probably have to glue part of the molding on but if anyone has a suggestion for this and perhaps can adapt the later molding clips to work?

 

Anyway after lots of adjusting, bending and grunting I managed to get the front end together. Not perfect but as good as I'm going to get for a 47 year old vehicle with a mix of OEM and after market parts on it. Hopefully next weekend I get the rear end at least ready for color.

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Look at that baby! Beautiful!

btw why not open the scoops? I mean, you could use all the "cold" air you can where you live no?

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Look at that baby! Beautiful!

btw why not open the scoops? I mean, you could use all the "cold" air you can where you live no?

 

Thanks Fabrice, hopefully will have the scars on the back done soon, then interior and finally registration!

 

As for the scoop inserts I actually did wonder why they were closed, no doubt without a ram air system there is the chance for water and bugs to enter the engine bay.

Our XB Falcon has perhaps the same scoop except it has an open grille and they don't have ram air or a shaker example here - 

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Maybe I'll just drill them out rather than spend money on XB ones especially if they don't fit!

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[there is the chance for water and bugs to enter the engine bay.]

Are the bugs kangaroo sized over there? :)

I mean, you get both bugs and water from the front anyway. You have an air filter for that.

And if it's really pouring, just keep it bellow 140 !

 

I would not drill, as to cut in between the lozenge shape will take lots of time and likely will be visible on this kind of plastic. I'd just remove them.

With your craftsmanship, I'd cut/shape a plate of aluminium to replicate the fitting in the inside and add a nice thin stainless steel wire mesh instead.

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