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UPDATE:

 

I have had the proto running for quite a while. I did a 'final' assembly of all the parts and let it sit on the bench running for three weeks. It kept perfect time, no issues at all. During that time I found a suitable chrome center piece so it looks more like an original clock.

 

After installing the center cap and reassembling everything I went to set the time. This clock is electronic and is set electronically, not through the gear set up it originally came with. Well, as it turns out after 3+ weeks of not working on the clock I had forgotten HOW to set the clock and when I did go by the instructions I had written I found the procedure rather confusing and frustrating. So I came up with an alternative. Unfortunately the parts I need are back-ordered and will be here sometime in August.

Bob

 

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Any time someone comes up with new innovations, it's a process and there are bound to be hiccups.  Thanks for taking this on... I'm a huge fan of your work - my RCCI Clock/Tach conversion is simply awesome, and I'm looking forward to getting one of your clocks for the center console. ::thumb::

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Hi Nat,

 

The 67/68 Cougar clocks have a Borg movement so it can be converted to quartz. This conversion is for clocks with GT (General Time) movements that cannot be converted to quartz. Down the road I might offer these for Borg clocks as well, but right now I am just working on coming up with a GT conversion.

Bob

 

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Another update, another set back....

 

The switch I was waiting for and thought would work is a bust. At this point I think I will go with my original thought when I started this project.

 

I will replace the set knob/shaft with a sub miniature push button. This button will set the time. A third wire will need to be connected to a power source. I think tapping into the lighting would be best, but it can be done through a separate switch if you prefer.

 

To set the time:

Turn on the lights (or switch on alternative power source).

Wait 5 seconds.

Push and hold the button that replaced the set stem/knob. The minute hand will start moving.

Holding the button will make the clock move forward at high speed. Pushing & releasing the button will make the minute hand move forward 30 seconds each time.

When done, release the button for 5 seconds, turn off lights or alternative power source if not needed.

 

Thoughts?

Bob

 

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The push and hold solution is ok. There are several other clocks that work the same way. The switch and wait for 5 seconds is a bit fidgety but once you get used to it I guess it’ll be ok. I mean you don’t do that twice a week anyway, so.....

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The push and hold solution is ok. There are several other clocks that work the same way. The switch and wait for 5 seconds is a bit fidgety but once you get used to it I guess it’ll be ok. I mean you don’t do that twice a week anyway, so.....

 

Yeah, I hate having to add another switch - that's why I figured tapping into the dash light circuit to activate set mode would be easiest. Turn on lights, press button...

Bob

 

Tachs, Voltmeters, Headlight kits, Wiper delays and more at

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In my opinion you should have started a new thread in our introduction section instead of hi-jacking another member's thread (who is also a site advertisers and supporter).

 

 

“If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.”

--Albert Einstein

 

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In my opinion you should have started a new thread in our introduction section instead of hi-jacking another member's thread (who is also a site advertisers and supporter).

 

Thanks, Don. I just moved his post to the Introductions section.

Bob

 

Tachs, Voltmeters, Headlight kits, Wiper delays and more at

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In my opinion you should have started a new thread in our introduction section instead of hi-jacking another member's thread (who is also a site advertisers and supporter).

 

I wasn't trying to hijack anyone's thread.  One of this site's members linked to my product listing on another site and I was trying to be responsive to it.  

 

If people don't want information then feel free to remove my post (I just joined for this one purpose) and take down the link to my product listing.

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Not a matter of liking, just forum etiquette. The thread initiator (who is also your competitor) was gracious enough to copy your thread over to Introductions.

 

 

“If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.”

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Now that the redesigned tachometer movements are 99.9% ready for production I have had some time to work on the clocks. Sometimes it's best to walk away and approach it cold.

 

Barring any unseen problems I 'believe' this is it:

 

* Since it is a digital clock it is very accurate. The motor only moves 2 times a minute rather than the constantly running motor of a quartz clock so the running clock pulls less than 1A (actually it is a constant 0.02A) @ 12.5 VDC so battery drain is negligible.

 

* I will re-use the entire clock except for the second hand so the clock will look stock, less the second hand.  If a core is missing the second hand it's no problem as I have a stock looking chrome center cap I install.

 

* The clock will bolt in and connect electrically just like an original clock and use the OEM illumination. Nothing to add or modify from stock.

 

* The original set stem and knob will be used when available. Cores without a set stem will get a small push button where the stem would be.

 

* To set the clock, pull out on the set stem and hold for 4 seconds.  This will activate the set mode.

Release the stem, then pull out again. The minute hand will advance 30 seconds. Release and pull out, release and pull out will move the minute hand 30 seconds each time.

Holding the set stem out continuously will advance the time at roughly 1 hour every 3 seconds.  

Release the stem for 4-5 seconds and the clock will exit set mode.

   

That's it. I hope to have a video showing the clock and how to set it soon.

Bob

 

Tachs, Voltmeters, Headlight kits, Wiper delays and more at

http://www.rccinnovations.com/Images/smlogo.jpg

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Now that the redesigned tachometer movements are 99.9% ready for production I have had some time to work on the clocks. Sometimes it's best to walk away and approach it cold.

 

Barring any unseen problems I 'believe' this is it:

 

* Since it is a digital clock it is very accurate. The motor only moves 2 times a minute rather than the constantly running motor of a quartz clock so the running clock pulls less than 1A (actually it is a constant 0.02A) @ 12.5 VDC so battery drain is negligible.

 

* I will re-use the entire clock except for the second hand so the clock will look stock, less the second hand.  If a core is missing the second hand it's no problem as I have a stock looking chrome center cap I install.

 

* The clock will bolt in and connect electrically just like an original clock and use the OEM illumination. Nothing to add or modify from stock.

 

* The original set stem and knob will be used when available. Cores without a set stem will get a small push button where the stem would be.

 

* To set the clock, pull out on the set stem and hold for 4 seconds.  This will activate the set mode.

Release the stem, then pull out again. The minute hand will advance 30 seconds. Release and pull out, release and pull out will move the minute hand 30 seconds each time.

Holding the set stem out continuously will advance the time at roughly 1 hour every 3 seconds.  

Release the stem for 4-5 seconds and the clock will exit set mode.

   

That's it. I hope to have a video showing the clock and how to set it soon.

 

 

Sounds awesome! What did you do to the tach ? I missed something.

 

 

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Sounds awesome! What did you do to the tach ? I missed something.

 

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Yeah, long story short = Product designer and long time supplier bought by sub par supplier, customer (me) unhappy with product, supplier will not correct issues, buyer goes elsewhere and uses opportunity to have new product completely redesigned with modern components and built-in features.

 

You can read more on my website https://www.rccinnovations.com/index.php?show=devnews in the Tachometers section.

Bob

 

Tachs, Voltmeters, Headlight kits, Wiper delays and more at

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This link is to a 36 sec video showing how to set the time on the converted clock:

http://www.rccinnovations.com/Temp/M7123DC-proto.mp4

Excuse the quality - it was shot by All By Myself Cellphone Productions.

 

So, there you have it. This particular clock is my proto-type so it's kind of ugly with an old lens but you can see that it looks stock.

It bolts in just like an original and uses the same connector. Nothing to do but plug it in and set the time.

Bob

 

Tachs, Voltmeters, Headlight kits, Wiper delays and more at

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I will be sending the first one to Mister 4x4 next week for him to evaluate.  Hopefully he will share his thoughts here and everyone can decide if they want in on the initial build.  

Last time I sent one into ISI for quartz conversion it was about $175.00 with shipping & insurance to them, the conversion and shipping back. And they only give a 1 year warranty. I am figuring I will do an intro to you guys on the list of $100 shipped in the lower 48  and $110 to my friends overseas.

If you need a core I do have some, I just haven't figured out what to charge for them. Anyone seen any for sale that can give a 'going price'?

Bob

 

Tachs, Voltmeters, Headlight kits, Wiper delays and more at

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Thanks Bob - I can't wait!  ::thumb::

 

And I promise I'll get right to it, unlike my Edelbrock fuel injection STILL waiting to get installed, after just 3 years.  :whistling:

 

I know where you live.... :D

 

 

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That's the clock I am sending you.

Bob

 

Tachs, Voltmeters, Headlight kits, Wiper delays and more at

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