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Amazing that all the 'high dollar' "total restored" "low mileage" 1971 and 1972 Mach 1's on eBay all have chrome front bumpers.

 

We won't EVEN mention side stripes.

 

I understand if that is the look an owner wants for their car.  Not my preference.  :whistling: 

But when you try and justify huge money for a car and try to say it is an original - this just doesn't work for me.

 

See what happens when I stay up after my bedtime!   :cool:

 

Ray

1971 Boss 351  

1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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Hi, I like Chrome bumber, but yeah it does not add originality to Mach1 :)

What is wrong with stripes?

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Ray's just pointing out that virtual;y every M1 owner feels the need to festoon their car with stripes, spoilers and tu-tone hoods, regardless of originality.

 

The chrome bumper doesn't bother me, given just how difficult it can be to find a good condition urethane unit.

 

 

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Ray's just pointing out that virtual;y every M1 owner feels the need to festoon their car with stripes, spoilers and tu-tone hoods, regardless of originality.

 

The chrome bumper doesn't bother me, given just how difficult it can be to find a good condition urethane unit.

 

I tend to agree with both faithful restoration and restomod ways of thinking, simply because not all cars out there are rare, collectible, or valuable.  Take my lowly H-Code, for example - a no stripe/no spoiler car, but with factory Ram Air.  I'd planned on a full stripe & spoiler package, but then noticed the overwhelming numbers of "stripe/spoiler/Tutone/Magnum 500" cars out there, and decided I didn't want another cookie-cutter 'cosmetically overloaded' car.  I ain't gonna lie - seeing cars with lower bright trim and hockey stripes bugs the crap out of me as well... now that I know better.  I liken it to throwing on a set of Mach 1 decals and calling it a Mach 1, when in fact it might be a Sportsroof - that's either negligent, dishonest, or a little bit of both in my opinion.  But, people do what people do, and at the end of the day, it's not my car OR my problem.  No sleep lost here.

 

I opted for a chrome bumper because my painter couldn't figure out how to get the primer to stick, let alone the paint (I'm sure), but it's safe in my storage unit for eventual reintegration with the car.  Oddly enough, I actually like the chrome front bumper look, and am in no particular hurry to replace it.

 

I guess after learning as much as I have over the years regarding the various models and configurations, I've become something not quite in the 'purist' category (maybe 'purist-lite'), and certainly respect the desire to see them faithfully restored... but that only makes sense to me for the rare, collectible, and/or valuable cars.  Average Joe Mustang buyer of the day would've tossed on some louvers, swapped in some air shocks and extended shackles, thrown on some Cragars or Keystone Classics along with some drag slick-sized tires in the back, and ditched the factory manifolds for some Blackjack headers and Cherry Bombs.  That's kind of what I did with mine, but got it back to as close to 'original-looking' as I could along the way (throw on a set of steelies and sport caps, and my car's looking pretty much as Ford made it - chrome front bumper, missing lower bright trim, and louvers aside, that is).

 

I still say, "Build it how you like."  If that happens to be a restomod, faithful restoration, or something in between, so be it.

Eric

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I have $2500 reasons why no one pays for an NOS urethane front bumper!   (and that is for a Camaro)

 

Mark

Well I have to give a big shout out and Thank You to Don from OMS! He hooked me up with a urethane bumper for my 72 and gave me a great deal. Got all the mounting hardware too.

John - 72 Q Code

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There is one way you got a Chrome front bumper on a Mach 1 in 71 72. If you ordered the car with a non factory color they did not have the matching color in paint for the rubber bumper. Ford installed Chrome front bumpers on the 6 digit DSO code special paint and trim cars for 71 & 72. In 73 they installed an Argent front bumper. The chrome bumper will be listed in the remarks section on bottom half of the build sheet.

Always question those cars might be one of the odd color ones. There was a total of 474 built in 1971 and 325 were Mach 1 and FB, 382 in 1972 and 227 were Mach 1 and FB. 1973 was busy with 698 total and 319 were Mach 1 and FB.

So there were quite a few built.

One of the best condition build sheets I have ever seen was for the Starsky & Hutch package do not remember the year.

Marti can only tell you it was a special paint and trim car and price paid but not what was included. The build sheet is the gold.

Here is pic of the Starsky & Hutch. Ford would do about anything you wanted as long as it did not deal with government regulated items, safety and emissions.

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Amazing that all the 'high dollar' "total restored" "low mileage" 1971 and 1972 Mach 1's on eBay all have chrome front bumpers.

 

We won't EVEN mention side stripes.

 

I understand if that is the look an owner wants for their car.  Not my preference.  :whistling: 

But when you try and justify huge money for a car and try to say it is an original - this just doesn't work for me.

 

See what happens when I stay up after my bedtime!   :cool:

 

Ray

 

Yep... the hobby has changed over the year's. Some do it simply because they like the look, but I think a big part of the reason for the chrome front bumper is the shortage of urethane bumper's priced reasonably. I think they look much better in urethane but I understand why some go another route. One of the reason's why I try to keep my two 71-3's factory original where possible. I like to show how they came from the factory for those that might be interested... I agree with some of the sales tactics being out in left field... They are getting away with it because buyer's are not educating themselves on what is and is not original...

"Yes dear", has kept me in the hobby a long time...

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Whats the best way to get the cracks out on a plastic bumper ,,,and do I have to use a different paint for just the bumper?

THE WIND SHEILD COWBOY

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I have $2500 reasons why no one pays for an NOS urethane front bumper!   (and that is for a Camaro)

 

Mark

 

 

 

Mark - I know it takes a lot of effort, but a friend just picked up a nice one for $450.  Another local Mustanger bought a parts car that had a decent one to restore.  They are still out there if someone really wants one.

 

Ray

1971 Boss 351  

1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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On 12/23/2018 at 1:21 PM, Mister 4x4 said:

Hey Ray - just to drive you nuts:

 

Frankcarshow_2017-4.jpg

 

 

BTW - it's also Miss October for the 2019 Calendar.

 

 

 

You're welcome.  rofl

 

 

No you get a HUGE pass for bringing a car back from the dead. And no side stripes on a Mach 1!!!

And I was just reminded how timeless Cragar mags are!!!!!

 

Thanks! lol

 

1971 Boss 351  

1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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Whats the best way to get the cracks out on a plastic bumper ,,,and do I have to use a different paint for just the bumper?

 

Here is a link for a  complete repair of a concourse-level urethane bumper.  While there might be different ways and materials used by others - Chuck (c9zx) has made this process work and his urethane still looks new!  I saw it yesterday! 

 

https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-urethane-front-bumper-repair?highlight=bumper+repair

 

Ray

1971 Boss 351  

1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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Thought I would throw this out there relative to the Side Stripes on Mach 1's and Verts since I know it is a pet peeve of Ray's...

 

Just using 1972 as an example according to the Ford records...

 

6,401 convertibles produced and 136 came with side stripes...that's 2 out of every 100 cars!

 

43,297 Fastbacks produced and 15,517 came with side stripes...that's approximately every third car!

 

How about Magnums in 1972...

 

296 convertibles got them or roughly 4 out of 100 cars.

 

6,292 fastbacks got them or about 15 out of 100 cars.

 

Merry Christmas

Jeff

Jeff

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Hey Ray - just to drive you nuts:

 

BTW - it's also Miss October for the 2019 Calendar.

 

 

 

You're welcome.  rofl

 

 

No you get a HUGE pass for bringing a car back from the dead. And no side stripes on a Mach 1!!!

And I was just reminded how timeless Cragar mags are!!!!!

 

Thanks! lol

 

 

You're a good sport, Brother!  Thanks for the kind words.

Eric

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On 12/23/2018 at 1:21 PM, Mister 4x4 said:

Hey Ray - just to drive you nuts:

 

Frankcarshow_2017-4.jpg

 

 

BTW - it's also Miss October for the 2019 Calendar.

 

 

 

You're welcome.  rofl

 

Eric ... MISTER 4 X 4  ... wouldn't your Mach 1 be MR October   :chin: :D

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My wife pointed that out as well.  I guess... technically... since its name is "Frankenstang," (Frank for short)...

 

 

 

OK - ya got me there.   :whistling:

 

 

I just had a thought: roughly 60% of the car visible in that pic, came from OMS (bumper, bumper fillers, grille, headlight doors, sport lamps, emblem, valance, hood locks, fenders, signal lights, front indicator lights & bezels, quarter panels, door handles & locks, windshield trim, decals...  about the only things in the pic that didn't come from OMS are the car itself, the windshield, doors, hood, wheels, and license plate & frame.  LOL!

Eric

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Mustang-Head-On.jpg

 

H-code '71 Mach 1 with a powder coated bumper to masquerade as a '72 Sportsroof in NHRA Stock Eliminator with an HO/C4 automatic combination.

D/E/F Stock-Automatic Mach 1

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Mustang-Head-On.jpg

 

H-code '71 Mach 1 with a powder coated bumper to masquerade as a '72 Sportsroof in NHRA Stock Eliminator with an HO/C4 automatic combination.

 

Cool drag car!   Powder coated chrome bymper is an interesting alternative to the urethane.  So car is a 1F02H originally, right?

 

Ray

1971 Boss 351  

1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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Last month I reinstalled my urethane bumper back on for the third time after refinishing it yet again. I love the look of the urethane bumper but I’ve such a hard time with the finish cracking. I’m hoping it holds up better this time.

Going fast is fun but life is short so slow down and enjoy the ride :D Frank

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When I bought my car, I noticed that it had Every Year Decal.

 

71 rear Mach 1 stripes on the back, 73 side stripes, and 72 Sprint style hood stripes.

 

Well its still like that, but I do plan on doing something about it at some point. It doesn't look terrible, just confusing.

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When I bought my car, I noticed that it had Every Year Decal.

 

71 rear Mach 1 stripes on the back, 73 side stripes, and 72 Sprint style hood stripes.

 

Well its still like that, but I do plan on doing something about it at some point.  It doesn't look terrible, just confusing.

 

 

Sounds as if you'd like it to be more original.  Respect that.  Take it one step at a time.

 

It is interesting how the originality guys like to explain how they have returned their car to more original and then the modded car guys like to describe what they have changed away from stock.  Both can be impressive. 

 

Ray

1971 Boss 351  

1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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Ray's just pointing out that virtual;y every M1 owner feels the need to festoon their car with stripes, spoilers and tu-tone hoods, regardless of originality.

 

The chrome bumper doesn't bother me, given just how difficult it can be to find a good condition urethane unit.

 

I understand your observation. However, 71-73 Mustangs are just ONE of a number of old automobiles that this happens to. Thousands of old 65-66 fastbacks are GT-350 clones today. Lots of guys have taken perfectly good 67-68 fastbacks and turned them into those "Elenore" clones. I used to have a Model A Ford coupe, and was in a club for the same. Very few that I can remember in the club, were restored to how they most likely came off the assembly line. Given that the Ford A was one of the least expensive cars you could buy, most were fairly plain, painted black, with black rims and tires, as originally manufactured. Most of the Model As in the club were accessorized to the owner's liking.  As you could well imagine, in the Chevrolet ranks, there are more "Z-28s ", RS, SS , and Factory performance models on the road today than Chevrolet EVER really built. How many 55-57 Chevys that originally came with a six cylinder are v-8 powered today. The majority, is my guess.  Maybe slightly less so for Mopar special car clones, due to big blocks taking special "K" members to do the switch.

     I guess it comes down to whether you are a "collector-restorer", or more a "car enthusiast" type. I think there's room for both. I personally lean more towards a restorer, mostly wanting things as they were, but I was in a car club just out of High School, had a chopped '34 Ford 3 window with an early Hemi for power, and that part of me really digs hot and modified touches.

    The bottom line, so far as value goes, was told to me many years ago, by a man who owned a few original old Fords. He used to growl at hopped-up Fords, and I confronted him once asking, " you really don't like hot rods, do you?" His reply was classic....." Actually, I don't really dis-like hot rods...….because every one that some squirrel hacks up, just makes my original worth more ." I see his point....I see your point.....and, I can see the point of the guys who modify their cars...we're all just car guys.

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Has anyone ever tried fabbing a faux urethane bumper by modifying a steel one? I would give it a shot if I had a template to work off of. Since you are painting it, makes no difference if some filler material is used to get the contour right.

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So that’s what you’re doing when you walked around my car. You were judging all the non original things I’ve done. Lol

 

For me I made changes purely based on my taste. In fact, I’m still making those changes. Wouldn’t mind having a poly bumper, but handy found one....

 

 

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