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Dear all,

 

this is just to introduce myself to this forum. I am about to help a friend building up her 73 T5 Convertible and I hope to get and share some insights with you here. 

 

I just finished my 4-year-restoration of a 68 Mustang Convertible 289 (no - I didn't work on it all the time - long pauses in between - and now, having it registered, the to do list still gets longer instead of shorter  :chin: ). Now, changing subject from 2nd to 4th generation. I'm curious about what's similar and what's different. I try to convince my friend to convert her car back to the rare T5 as it once left the facility in Dearborn (confirmed by Marti). Unfortunately it has been converted to a "regular" Mustang through the years. It's in a pretty good shape though with all metal work done. Reassembling and gathering all the T5 stuff are the aims.

 

Any 73 T5 around?

 

I am looking forward to the discussions and posts here. Thank you for having me.

 

Best regards,

 

Markus

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Welcome from Iowa.

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Welcome from Oregon. We like pictures :)

 

 

“If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.”

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Hello from North Carolina, USA!  I debated trying to write that in German, but my 2 years of high school German 25 years ago has failed me (what would Frau Lintner think?)... 

 

Oddly enough, I do remember the word for homework.

Lazarus

 

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Dear all,

 

wow! - wanderlust comes up after those greetings from all over the states. Actually I lived in Charlotte, NC, for a year, visiting Pfeiffer University and working with Coca-Cola there. So special greetings to Mecklenburg County! ::thumb::  It has been such a great experience and a lot of fun. I took each and every opportunity to travel around the States from coast to coast and from north to south.  :cool:

 

But back to the Mustang. I'll post the whole story in pictures - thanks for the hint! Here's where we start:

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Best,

 

Markus

 

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At the end, I hope we'll have it in Medium Aqua paint as export T5 again (as it left Dearborn).  ;)

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Whaddaya mean 2nd to 4th generation? They're ALL 1st generation up to 1973! 

Welcome from Omaha!

 

Thank you. You are absolutely right - my mistake - sorry! What I meant was changing subject from 1st to 3rd facelift within the 1st generation.

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Nice to see a rare T5 about to be saved.

Looks like its been dipped in a yellow paint bucket. Lots of paint remover fun in perspective :)

Good side is that it looks like the paint protected it well.

 

Nice city you live into. Been there 3 times at the Koelnmesse for work and got there my first european exchanged speeding ticket on one of your huge bridges.

Still can't believe they spent time to track me and 5 euros worth of post just to charge me 8 euros.

 

Welcome from the northern Netherlands

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Nice to see a rare T5 about to be saved.

Looks like its been dipped in a yellow paint bucket. Lots of paint remover fun in perspective :)

Good side is that it looks like the paint protected it well.

 

Nice city you live into. Been there 3 times at the Koelnmesse for work and got there my first european exchanged speeding ticket on one of your huge bridges.

Still can't believe they spent time to track me and 5 euros worth of post just to charge me 8 euros.

 

Welcome from the northern Netherlands

 

Hi Fabrice, welcome to digitalized EU! They just push a button to track somebody off the licence plate. Same happened to me in NL. Got a parking ticket there. Going to Oostkapelle next week with my 68 convertible!  :cool: Best, Markus

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Hi Markus, welcome from Oeffelt, the Netherlands! Looking forward to your progress. I am restoring a convertible as well.

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Welcome to the forum from another North Carolina native. I am in the mountains in Hendersonville about 100 miles from Charlotte.

I have a 72 T-5 Mach 1 sitting in my back yard, lol. Only one so far located in U.S.A..

There is also a T-5 Facebook page you might want to join. I have very little info on the 71 - 73 T-5.

I do have some NOS dash emblems. This car has gauges so there was no T-5 sticker above the radio where others have the Mustang and running horse.

The gas cap did not have Mustang written so it is same. Horn ring also just the running horse.

The sticker showing the tire size on the passenger door jam would have had the word Mustang cut from the corner. The would leave the Mustang emblem off of the front fender. I am not 100% sure of what emblem was on the front fender. There are several different opinions. You should try to find an original showroom sales brochure there.

There is an opinion that there were two versions of the T-5 one built for sale to Germans and one built for sale to the American soldiers stationed there. Cannot confirm. I know the Marti for the one I have just states it had the T-5 package, Export Label and Accessory Packaging. I have been told that was some sort of road side thing with maybe flares?

All of the fastback or Mach 1 models got rear window defoggers as standard on T-5.

I think the only three places on a convertible that the Mustang name would have to be deleted would be the front fenders, tire size sticker on the passenger door jam and the stick on the center dash that is not present with gauges.

I still have a couple NOS 1965 66 T-5 Fender emblems. Several people want them have seen on ebay for $1,500 I think I paid $20.00 for them. I have not found the two NOS dash stickers yet too much stuff. I can see them in an envelope in a storage bin somewhere just do not know where.

Here is pic of the door sticker on the 72 T-5 I have and also the Marti report.

There is one 1971 Mach 1 T-5 for sale here for I think $148,000. Dreaming for sure. Just because it is rare does not make it valuable.

I have seen coupe T-5 convertibles on craigslist in Atlanta in the past. I did talk with one and he found his in Columbia, South Carolina where the Army base is located. The U.S. military would ship your car home for one dollar so probably more T-5 in U.S. than Germany. There were 84 convertibles built in 1973 as T-5.

Lots if info here and we love to watch people build these cars.

Cheers,

 

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So, I have a question. You say it is a friend's car but you became a member of our site with your screen name 73T5Conv. Why wouldn't your friend join the club?

71-73 Mustangs never die, they just go faster!

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Welcome from another 73 Convertible owner (in the state of Delaware). I have many family members near Munich and Heidelberg. I have visited the southern portion near the Austrian border but never been north to Frankfurt or Cologne area. Would like to someday.

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Welcome to the forum from another North Carolina native. I am in the mountains in Hendersonville about 100 miles from Charlotte.

I have a 72 T-5 Mach 1 sitting in my back yard, lol. Only one so far located in U.S.A..

There is also a T-5 Facebook page you might want to join. I have very little info on the 71 - 73 T-5.

I do have some NOS dash emblems. This car has gauges so there was no T-5 sticker above the radio where others have the Mustang and running horse.

The gas cap did not have Mustang written so it is same. Horn ring also just the running horse.

The sticker showing the tire size on the passenger door jam would have had the word Mustang cut from the corner. The would leave the Mustang emblem off of the front fender. I am not 100% sure of what emblem was on the front fender. There are several different opinions. You should try to find an original showroom sales brochure there.

There is an opinion that there were two versions of the T-5 one built for sale to Germans and one built for sale to the American soldiers stationed there. Cannot confirm. I know the Marti for the one I have just states it had the T-5 package, Export Label and Accessory Packaging. I have been told that was some sort of road side thing with maybe flares?

All of the fastback or Mach 1 models got rear window defoggers as standard on T-5.

I think the only three places on a convertible that the Mustang name would have to be deleted would be the front fenders, tire size sticker on the passenger door jam and the stick on the center dash that is not present with gauges.

I still have a couple NOS 1965 66 T-5 Fender emblems. Several people want them have seen on ebay for $1,500 I think I paid $20.00 for them. I have not found the two NOS dash stickers yet too much stuff. I can see them in an envelope in a storage bin somewhere just do not know where.

Here is pic of the door sticker on the 72 T-5 I have and also the Marti report.

There is one 1971 Mach 1 T-5 for sale here for I think $148,000. Dreaming for sure. Just because it is rare does not make it valuable.

I have seen coupe T-5 convertibles on craigslist in Atlanta in the past. I did talk with one and he found his in Columbia, South Carolina where the Army base is located. The U.S. military would ship your car home for one dollar so probably more T-5 in U.S. than Germany. There were 84 convertibles built in 1973 as T-5.

Lots if info here and we love to watch people build these cars.

Cheers,

 

David,

 

thank you for the information. Seems you know the T5 registry - I got in contact with them, too, to get this T5 registered also. There's no door sticker anymore on our car unfortunately. Maybe I get a replica from Marti. When I see your Marti Report I'm pretty sure yours is coming from an Army soldier (often there was no km/h speedometer conversion on the "Army T5" which the German customers had to have though).

 

To all who are interested and don't mind translating the text (copy and paste) with your favorite translator from German to English, this is a pretty interesting summary of the T5 history: https://www.mustangclub.de/modelle/t5/die-geschichte-t5

 

Best,

 

Markus

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So, I have a question. You say it is a friend's car but you became a member of our site with your screen name 73T5Conv. Why wouldn't your friend join the club?

 

Thank you for the note - good question. That's simply because she is not that much involved and wants me to do what's necessary to get her car back on the road asap. Another thing is that she doesn't have much technical understanding and not much experience with car clubs and forums.

 

I am also Member of the First Mustang Club of Germany.

 

Best,

 

Markus

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I used to be a member of 1st Mustang Club of Germany! I quit my membership after only a year or two, realizing what a joke that club was, including its president!

71-73 Mustangs never die, they just go faster!

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Markus,

 

welcome to the site!

 

I have a a 1973 Mach 1 T5 with a 4 speed and a 351C 4V, which I restore to factory specs. It is one of 299 T5 Sportsroofs ever built, in this combination with Gold Glow, vinyl roof etc. surely a real one of one. I have all original informations about it, paperwork, all T5-emblems etc. My resto is pausing at the moment because of some family and house related, 'more important' things, you know... But here you can follow my whole thread and read the current state:

 

https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-tim-s-1973-mach-1-rebuild-thread

 

 

Furthermore my father has a 1973 T5 covertible too, one of 84 ever built. It has also a 351C 4V in it, but with an automatic and electric windows. It is perhaps the only one unmolested '73 T5 convertible worldwide. Original paint, wheels, stickers, emblems etc. ALL! Only oil, coolant, brake shoes and some other necessarities were changed, but all NOS or concourse specs! My father and my mother regularly tripping around with it and take it for a picknick ::thumb:: 

 

So if you need some informations about it you are welcome to call me ;)

Tim

 

Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly :runninpony:

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Markus,

 

welcome to the site!

 

I have a a 1973 Mach 1 T5 with a 4 speed and a 351C 4V, which I restore to factory specs. It is one of 299 T5 Sportsroofs ever built, in this combination with Gold Glow, vinyl roof etc. surely a real one of one. I have all original informations about it, paperwork, all T5-emblems etc. My resto is pausing at the moment because of some family and house related, 'more important' things, you know... But here you can follow my whole thread and read the current state:

 

https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-tim-s-1973-mach-1-rebuild-thread

 

 

Furthermore my father has a 1973 T5 covertible too, one of 84 ever built. It has also a 351C 4V in it, but with an automatic and electric windows. It is perhaps the only one unmolested '73 T5 convertible worldwide. Original paint, wheels, stickers, emblems etc. ALL! Only oil, coolant, brake shoes and some other necessarities were changed, but all NOS or concourse specs! My father and my mother regularly tripping around with it and take it for a picknick ::thumb:: 

 

So if you need some informations about it you are welcome to call me ;)

 

Hi Tim,

 

thank you for your note - I immediately spent the whole morning to go through your thread - that's awesome! Absolutely fine what you do with a lot of passion and how professional you restore your car. You know each and every bolt on your car by first name, don't you?   ::thumb::  That gives a lot of motivation on my project(s) even if I don't get close to your accurate work! Looking forward to seeing your progress.

 

I'll certainly get in touch if you don't mind - even if it seems you don't have time to chat next to your project!

 

Best, 

 

Markus

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Markus,

 

welcome to the site!

 

I have a a 1973 Mach 1 T5 with a 4 speed and a 351C 4V, which I restore to factory specs. It is one of 299 T5 Sportsroofs ever built, in this combination with Gold Glow, vinyl roof etc. surely a real one of one. I have all original informations about it, paperwork, all T5-emblems etc. My resto is pausing at the moment because of some family and house related, 'more important' things, you know... But here you can follow my whole thread and read the current state:

 

https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-tim-s-1973-mach-1-rebuild-thread

 

 

Furthermore my father has a 1973 T5 covertible too, one of 84 ever built. It has also a 351C 4V in it, but with an automatic and electric windows. It is perhaps the only one unmolested '73 T5 convertible worldwide. Original paint, wheels, stickers, emblems etc. ALL! Only oil, coolant, brake shoes and some other necessarities were changed, but all NOS or concourse specs! My father and my mother regularly tripping around with it and take it for a picknick ::thumb:: 

 

So if you need some informations about it you are welcome to call me ;)

 

Hi Tim,

 

thank you for your note - I immediately spent the whole morning to go through your thread - that's awesome! Absolutely fine what you do with a lot of passion and how professional you restore your car. You know each and every bolt on your car by first name, don't you?   ::thumb::  That gives a lot of motivation on my project(s) even if I don't get close to your accurate work! Looking forward to seeing your progress.

 

I'll certainly get in touch if you don't mind - even if it seems you don't have time to chat next to your project!

 

Best, 

 

Markus

 

Markus,

 

thank you for your kind words, I appreciate that much!

 

Your welcome to ask and contact me for further questions! Time is not that much at the moment but for some words on the Mustang there will be time every here and there ;)

 

I am happy to be someone's inspiration and motivation - I need that from time to time too for doing hard work on everything!

 

All the best and hear from you soon,

Tim

 

Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly :runninpony:

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