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I have found these two cars.  I am wanting to know if the car without stripes would have actually come with a 4V 351C...or if it is likely a 2V engine just had a sticker swap.  The 4V car does have the tach dash.

 

Looking at both cars from the online adds, which would you go with.  Budget is 30K.  

 

One appears to be basically done and the cheaper one may need some things like a new top, rear leaf springs and some general maintenance.  I think I also see some rust in places.  It leaves 10K to play with.

 

Car number 1 28K

 

https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1256917/1971-ford-mustang-for-sale-in-volo-illinois-60073

 

 

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Car number 2 18K

 

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/ford/mustang/2305427.html

 

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IMO, the 71' M code is the more interesting ride. The description appears straightforward. M-code with air would be fun ride. The extra 10K can take care of quite a few items.

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wow. $30k for a 71-73 351 is a ton of money. its a price we would all love to see for these cars, but is not a price I believe to reflect the general market.

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my mom wanted a convertible a few years ago, I got her an A4 vert....

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Still considering car number 1.  Mom can be down 40HP for her intended purposes with the car.  Question, what's the main difference between the C6 transmission and the FMX transmission?

 

As far as she'd be concerned - nothing. Both are three speed autos and one works as well as the other. 

 

Car #1 is way, way, way overpriced.

 

 

If I was going to budget $30k on a convertible, I'd probably lean towards this car for it's future collectability after some of the problems are handled.

 

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/ford/mustang/2310662.html

 

 

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https://www.justmusclecars.com/1971-vehicle-ford-mustang-convertible-c-64.htm

 

I found another, and I would like opinions on it. Based on the vin if I am deciding it correctly, I think it’s supposed to be an H code 351C 2V engine. It’s only advertised as a 351C , but the engine picks show 351C 4V on the air cleaner. How can I tell for sure what engine it has in it? Is this just up badging?

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https://www.justmusclecars.com/1971-vehicle-ford-mustang-convertible-c-64.htm

 

I found another, and I would like opinions on it.  Based on the vin if I am deciding it correctly, I think it’s supposed to be an H code 351C 2V engine.  It’s only advertised as a 351C , but the engine picks show 351C 4V on the air cleaner.  How can I tell for sure what engine it has in it?  Is this just up badging?

 

That car looks really nice underneath. I see some leaks and such, but that's nothing that some basic mechanical work can't take care of. The critical thing with any 71-73 Mustang convertible is rust, especially in the floors and inner rockers. 

 

It has an aftermarket aluminum intake, carb and air cleaner with a repop "351-4V" sticker. 

 

2V had smaller port and valved heads than the 4V engine. 4 bolts ere typically Boss and Q-code engines only, but I had an H-code car with a correct VIN stamped 4 bolt block.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine

 

 

Attached PDF will help with the buck tag codes

Ford Buck Tag Codes-V1.pdf

 

 

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can't figure out FM and PW (unless that's a PV power ventilation) PV is power windows I guess.  The car has power steering but no mention of it on the buck tag.  Also can't figure out the transmission and rear end.

 

 I see now that it was a Medium Green Metallic, with all black vinyl interior.

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FM is for FM stereo radio, PW is for power windows. Two more missing codes I'll add and update the posting. I used power windows in the example, but didn't manage to get it in the list :(

 

My car has power steering, too, but isn't on my buck tag either.

 

 

“If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.”

--Albert Einstein

 

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this is typical of what I see around here all the time: https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/d/braintree-1973-mustang-convertable/6984915963.html

 

decent looking, around 12k. I don't think its a Mach 1, but I didn't check very hard

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I would like to get a convertible for my Mom, but her trade in value just isn't very high. ;)

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"I love my Hookers!" and "Get some Strange" probably have a different connotation to non automotive enthusiasts!

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A partial VIN will be located on the back of the block, on the driver's side right below the head gasket, if it's an original engine. You'll need a mirror to see it, or maybe take a picture with a cell phone. There's not much room between the engine and firewall. You can search our forum and find examples of what others have been able to find.

 

 

“If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.”

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I want to find out if the engine is original to the car or not.  I know it has a 351C 2V and came with one...but how do I match it to the VIN?

 

Doesn't really matter much on a non-performance car. If it was an M or Q code 351-4V, then it would add slightly to the value. 

 

Block VIN stamping looks like below - if the buck tag you posted is from that 'vert, it would be 1F218732 (year)(assy plant)(unit number)

 

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Can I ask why you are not looking at 72 & 73 you got deluxe interior in all verts 71 was an option. 

I have several and have not paid anywhere near any of those prices for them.

I just drove my 73 on the Blue Ridge Parkway today over 5,000 feet has the following options.

1973 Mustang convertible. All had Power Top BTW and all had Glass rear window.

It came with the aftermarket aluminum wheels and new tires and also the factory steel wheels and Sport Wheel Covers. I just put the Factory aluminum wheels on and new Cooper tires. 

Yes it is dented and scratched but I do not have to worry about getting it hurt, lol. I just drive int to shows and playing here. I bought several others also very cheap. You need to get away from those Shiny Used Car places they know nothing about them just want to put money in pocket. Run your own wanted ads on Craigslist in several areas of the U.S. estates are selling them every day I am sure.

Automatic

PDB

PS

long console

Center gauges

Tach

Convenience Group

Decor group

Deluxe rear bumper rub strip and guards

Sport Wheel Covers

AM/FM

AC

Tilt column

351 H code numbers matching, with performer 2-V to 4-V added.

Bored .050" over, cam, flat top pistons shift kit installed. 

MSD ignition

New top

Original paint and interior white comfort weave

California car with 48,000 miles zero rust. Was on ebay so not hidden $7,200 and $1,000 to transport. I have driven on 90 deg. plus heat with not issues so far. 

I was ask at a show what I would take and I said $21,000 and he walked. 

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When a man is in the woods and talks and no women are there is he still wrong??:P

David

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We like the chrome front bumpers /trim and the 240HP engine vs 177HP; would still prefer a real 71 351C 4V 280HP engine. Deluxe door panels can be added pretty easy. I guess you can make a 73 have 71 performance and looks too, but just haven't run across any 72 or 73 in the ball park. Now my mom is thinking she might want a 67-68 instead. I'm getting a bit frustrated. I think we are looking at a pretty nice car here for not too much $$$.

 

I appreciate all of yall's help.

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We like the chrome front bumpers /trim and the 240HP engine vs 177HP; would still prefer a real 71 351C 4V 280HP engine.  Deluxe door panels can be added pretty easy.  I guess you can make a 73 have 71 performance and looks too, but just haven't run across any 72 or 73 in the ball park.  Now my mom is thinking she might want a 67-68 instead.  I'm getting a bit frustrated.  I think we are looking at a pretty nice car here for not too much $$$. 

 

I appreciate all of yall's help.

 

 

I think the one you posted last is a pretty nice car. Offer a bit low and see where they come back at. 

 

Regarding the horsepower differences, in 1972, two things happened. First, Ford switched from SAE "gross" HP rating to SAE "net", where the engine was dyno tested with all accessories it would usually be installed with. This resulted in a significant rated HP drop on certain engines, which were more realistic. Also, the camshafts on all engines were retarded 4 degrees for emissions purposes. Other than that, the engines were identical. If you drove a stock trim 71 H-code, side by side with a 72 H-code, I'd bet you couldn't tell the difference. 73 saw a dished piston in the 2V and 4V engine, so compression dropped a bit.

 

 

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