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Maybe I'm slow and this has been posted, but man....I'm freakin out. Ford v. Ferrari

 

Can't wait to see this...

 

 

 

I'm with ya!  Can't wait.  High Def IMAX I'm hoping!

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I watched it last night in Imax. It was awesome! My heart was racing like if I was the driver. The little I am familiar with the original story I think it was covered very well. Obviously, as they always do in the movies some events were made to be a lot shorter than they really were and they skipped some important details. Here are some small details that I noted:

-I thought it was Shelby that pitched the idea to Iaccoca, but it was the other way in the movie.

-The GT40 race program started with Lola in UK. They skipped directly to when the Lola chassis landed in the US.

-The movie shows Ken Miles not going to the 1965 Le Mans race, but my understanding is that he participated.

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Sunday is wedding anniversary - hope to get the wife into the cinema... She do not know exactly what about the film is  :D 

 

Could one of you babysitting our three kids, please?

Tim

 

Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly :angel:

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Sunday is wedding anniversary - hope to get the wife into the cinema... She do not know exactly what about the film is  :D 

 

Could one of you babysitting our three kids, please?

 

No problem.  Be more than glad to baby sit for you.  Just send two round trip air from Cincinnati to me and leave the keys for the stang.      :D

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Sunday is wedding anniversary - hope to get the wife into the cinema... She do not know exactly what about the film is  :D 

 

Could one of you babysitting our three kids, please?

I can also provide several names of good divorce lawyers as well.

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I don't know how many of you read what Ford posted a couple weeks ago about the GT-40 project.

Will have to go looking for the info. They opened their vault and pulled out some of the real info on the project. They actually still have all of the engineering drawings for the cars. 

They made a statement cut and pasted from the article. "The film is a piece of entertainment, first and foremost. It's what I would characterize as a dramatic reinterpretation of history," says Jay Ward, Ford director of Europe product communications and public affairs.

 

Should have a link in a day or so from the MOM. They had a weekend thing last week for the GT-40. They also had some speakers attend and one was Lee Holman. They did record it and will put up for everyone to hear more of a real version of what happened. 

I have not seen the movie will probably wait for it to come to TV, lol. 

I sat and talked with Lee Holman a couple times he loves to tell tales about Shelby and how little he did. 

I ask Lee why he never got into driving and he said his dad told him that was not his job. He did get the job of seating the brakes on all the cars at Le Mans. 

He also talked about his dad getting tired of seeing the last 12 complete cars sitting in Charlotte. I think he wanted $140,000 for 12 complete running cars. Lee said he went to bank and to get loan his dad would have to sign. His dad said Hell No I want them gone if you buy they will stay here. They also had bodies stacked up out back. One of our members here use to go to Holman & Moody when he was a boy. He said he use to go play in the piles of GT-40's out back. 

More or less Ford Engineers did all the details and Holman & Moody made the cars run, handle and have durability. Shelby never could. The engineer that had the project at Ford is still alive, Mose Noland.

Here is link to the Ford info. 

https://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/movies/julie-hinds/2019/11/08/ford-ferrari-real-story-christian-bale-matt-damon/2521424001/

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When a man is in the woods and talks and no women are there is he still wrong??:P

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Sunday is wedding anniversary - hope to get the wife into the cinema... She do not know exactly what about the film is  :D 

 

Could one of you babysitting our three kids, please?

 

No problem.  Be more than glad to baby sit for you.  Just send two round trip air from Cincinnati to me and leave the keys for the stang.      :D

 

:D

 

Ok - but you have to tell the cops why in the world you have renounced of all safety features of the car... 

 

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But it's driveable  ;)

Tim

 

Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly :angel:

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Sunday is wedding anniversary - hope to get the wife into the cinema... She do not know exactly what about the film is  :D 

 

Could one of you babysitting our three kids, please?

I can also provide several names of good divorce lawyers as well.

 

 

Ummh... I know few of them already... But thanks, Randy - you never know...

Tim

 

Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly :angel:

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Sunday is wedding anniversary - hope to get the wife into the cinema... She do not know exactly what about the film is  :D 

 

Could one of you babysitting our three kids, please?

 

No problem.  Be more than glad to baby sit for you.  Just send two round trip air from Cincinnati to me and leave the keys for the stang.      :D

 

:D

 

Ok - but you have to tell the cops why in the world you have renounced of all safety features of the car... 

 

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But it's driveable  ;)

 

No problem,  I'll pack the following items -

 

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By the way - Happy Anniversary!

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Kilgon

 

 

"The only dumb question is the one not asked"

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I just got back home from watching the movie Ford V Ferrari. I thought it was very well done, excellent attention to detail, heck, even a bottle of Johnny Walker Black Label scotch had the correct label on it. It IS a movie, but as such, very enjoyable. I'd watch it again and for sure will buy the Blue-Ray when it comes out.

Back in, I think 66 or 67, where I lived in Birmingham UK, a local Esso Petrol (gas) station had a glass display building out front. This particular time, there was a GT 40 in Gulf livery and I remember the display board saying the chassis was "bonded honey-comb Aluminium". Also, it was my understanding that all the Mk 1,2 & 3 chassis were built by Lola Race Cars in or around Coventry.

I'm inspired to do some research to clarify my aging mind.

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Got to see it last night. No idea about the true story but the story told is good. Loved seeing the racing, great movie! Also awesome to see the gt40, what a car!

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I saw the movie last week .... unbelievably great.

On a screen with gigantic 22 x 27 meters and 12-channel surround sound with mega bass. 

Pure enthusiasm and great atmosphere in the cinema.

Top Movie with top actor.

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They had the new season of Autobiography on MT last night, and it was all about Ford vs Ferrari. The real story. They even had Matt Damon and Christian Bale on there too. What a terrific story. I never really know about it because I was 1 years old when it happened.

 

Ken Miles really was an amazing Driver, Engineer, and Mechanic. He and Shelby worked tirelessly to tweak the Mk II version of the GT40 till it was perfection.

 

The part I didnt know was that Ken died in a crash at the ford testing facility in California just a couple of months after winning the big race.

 

 

The GT 40 car used in the film that was driven by Christian Bale will be auctioned off at the Mecum Auto Auction in Kissimmee this January. One of several incredible cars that will be there including the Piston powered land speed record car, and the Steve McQueen Bullit Mustang. Best thing is, I will be there as always. One benefit of living in the Orlando, FL metro area. :)

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Went on a cruise with this group of bad boys to an opening day matinee on Saturday the 16th.  Good times!

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Don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! ::thumb::

 

 

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Went on a cruise with this group of bad boys to an opening day matinee on Saturday the 16th.  Good times!

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Great group of buddies!

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I saw the movie when it first came out, both my wife and I enjoyed it. Christian Bale, as Ken Miles, is the one to watch in this movie. As far as Carroll Shelby, the story to be told about him starts way before the GT-40/LeMans deal. You could shoot a movie twice as long on just Shelby, his racing days, his Goodyear dealership, The Cobras, the Daytonas, etc.

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Yep Spike,

 

Go to Netflix and watch the documentary "Shelby American"

 

Let me know what you think.  I think it gave so much better a story than Ford vs Ferrari.

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Kcmash,

The Shelby American Netflix film is a good one. I have watched it before. Years ago, I had a '65 Hi-Po ( K code ) GT coupe, and a '66 GT-350 ( not at the same time ). Those cars were really so fun to drive, so much so, that I had to drive into Santa Monica to "Villem B. Haan", ( a sports car accessories dealer here in LA ) to buy some leather driving gloves to wear when driving the GT-350. No, I didn't need them, it's just that the feel, sight, sounds, and smell of that GT-350 made you feel like you were, in fact, driving a race car. Back then, friends would ask me how fast the car was, and I'd take them up this long twisty hill road, throttle steering the thing around turns by mashing the gas pedal to kick out the rear end...…..waaaaaaay before the kids of today discovered "drifting". Between 3000 and 6500 rpm, that thing could sing. The speedo went up to 120 and you could pin the speedo. Although today, I own a '71 Mach 1 351c, which I love, I am forever a fan of the Hi-Po and "Cobra-ized" 289...…….I even have a real Hi-Po 289 engine tucked away in the garage, though I don't have the car to put it in.

I still have the "Cobra" jacket I bought from Ford in '72 as well.

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Years ago, I was told that inside the cover of the 427 Cobra Owner's Manual, was a statement,...….."The joy of owning your new 427 Cobra, is that every car on the road ahead of you, is only there , because you want them to be there ." I can't confirm whether or not this was really printed in the Owner's Manual, but I like the way it sounds.

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Going to post this one more time.

Shelby failed at every project he had with Ford. After 1966 Ford pulled it all from California and built in house. 

The GT-40 was a failure at Shelby and Holman Moody pulled the cars out of failure. Shelby failed at every thing he tried. History states that but people think he is so great when he was a failure. 

He designed nothing on the Mustang either Ford or Holman Moody did the engineering. H&M got the GT-40 to work not shelby. You should go talk to the Ford people in engineering like Gale Halderman he will set it straight. Shelby failed at ever attempt he made. Mustang, Europa & Mexican just a hand full ever sold. FAILURE. Show me a different result. FAILURE. Shelby was nothing.

When a man is in the woods and talks and no women are there is he still wrong??:P

David

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Hmmm, David could you post this "one more time"??? don't think you are emotional enough. Lighten up Frances!

Maybe we can get someone to post a opinion based on facts not personal belief. You are however,  entitled to your "opinion" and reading yours is entertaining but not true.

Just something to put in your pipe and smoke.

CS won the 59 Le Mans. Failure? Hardly! He did it with a serious heart condition, taking meds while racing. Failure or just one helluva tough guy?? 

Twice sports illustrated driver of the year.  Failure??

CS brought us the cobra. (Yes, he used friends and racers to build it) this car endures today! Legendary performance! Failure?? He never intended to sell 50K cars a year.

CS team brought us the GT350-GT500. NUFF SAID!!

Ford still puts his name on their cars. IF HE WAS SUCH A FAILURE I DOUBT FORD WOULD DO THIS!! (Hello. McFly!!)

 

This is just a few points. There is a much larger list but these should make my point.These are FACTS!

 

So, I ask, what have you done with your life? Pretty bold of you to stand in mud and point fingers at the winners podium.

 

Cheers!!

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Boys, Boys......... It doesnt change that it was a hell of a movie! I waited for the dvd to come out this week. Bought one so I could sit in my living room with my wife Sally (mustang Sally) and cheer on our Ford Friends.

 

It was like a Rocky movie in some ways. Cheering for the under dog and winning. God I love it!

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I saw the movie at the Cinema when it first came out and even my wife, who's not really that much into cars, loved it. We bought the Blue-ray and watched it last night. We both saw stuff we missed the first time, so no doubt I'll watch it many times.

I'm not going to comment on the Shelby stuff, but in the movie, not once did they mention that in the search for the perfect car, in England of course, they looked a the Lotus before going to Lola. The Lotus Europa was the first one. Then they went to Lola who already had a successful race car, the Lola T70.That and the Mk 6 Prototyp developed into the GT40.

 Ok, I did a google search and found "Petrolicious.com" and found an article about the Lola Mk 6 Prototype that did evolve into the GT 40 It's worth a read imo.

So basically the GT 40 was a Lola with a Ford 289 in the back. The movie never mentions that fact. Not once did the even mention Lola, just that the GT40 came from England. So, was it really the only "American made car" to win Lemans???

I believe it would have been around 1966, I remember seeing a GT40 on display at a nearby Petrol station in Mosely, Birmingham where I lived. There was a glass display "case" if you like out in front. The GT40 was in Gulf colors and had an information board with it. It described the fact it had an aluminium honey-comb chassis and a Ford 427 motor amongst other stuff I don't remember. Oh what a car!! 

( I actually know where one is in a private collection)

EDIT: Google www.petrolicious.com then add Lola Mk6 Very interesting read.

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