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I know alot of body shops and mechanics are crooked. BUT there are alot of good ones out there also!! You just need to do your homework and talk to as many people as you can about who does good work and who does shit work.  If a guy quotes you an unbelievable low price and time line, then its probably too good to be true. If he says he can get you in right away, that's a bad sign too. Usually if your a good shop, you have a waiting list. And the old saying "you get what you pay for" is usually very true.  I got a sign in my garage "You can have it CHEAP, FAST, and GOOD. Pick 2!"  I do alot of side work in my garage and I am never lacking customers. I try to be upfront and honest about the work. Give a ballpark price, and try to stay with it but you never know what will come up once you open that can of worms.  I document every step of all my repairs and send updates to my customers often through text, even if they don't ask for it.  Not many people still do this kind of work, and probably for good reason....it sucks!  But I do enjoy cutting, grinding, welding.... bringing something back from the dead. This type of work is very labor intensive and takes time to do properly. So just do your homework before dropping your car off with someone. To us its our pride and joy, to them its just another car.  If any of you guys in or around PA ever need any welding and sheetmetal work done let me know, I know a guy!  LOL! 

Link to the mach 1 I did.     https://7173mustangs.com/forums/topic/27464-new-project-for-this-winter-71-mach-1/?tab=comments#comment-281511

 

Kevin
1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

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my car just got back from the body shop and the hood graphics came out fantastic.  I supplied them with the stencil from graphics express and they came out great.     Compare that to David F

My painter didn’t use a stencil. But I made sure that he did it correct as possible. I went by measurements from others who have posted about it. Do a search and look for the most recent ones about ho

The stencil came from Graphics Express in Inverness,  Fl. Just Google them.  Came out great using David's reference measurements for locating the correct starting placement. 

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On 10/4/2020 at 9:26 AM, Stanglover said:

 When I did mine, my painter only used the Graphics Express template as a guide because he did not trust that paint would not bleed under the edges. He taped the shape with that plastic tape. The G/E template is set for 6" from the hood edge all the way down, back to front at the start of the curve. That actually improves the proportions to my eye, but the correct setting is more like 5 3/8" at the windshield to 5 9/16" at the start of the curve as seen in David's and 7173Vert's posted pictures. The front hood edge should follow the line of the hood and be 1 7/8 to 2 " from the TRIM piece, not the edge of the hood as in my case, which was on me for misinforming the painter.

NOTE: The hood pdf was done for my own reference and "borrowed from 7173Vert" The dimensions he added were very hard to make out, but what I have added is as close as possible. None of these were ever done exactly the same and many were at least a 1/4" off. Thanks Ken. I don't have David's dimensions, perhaps he can repost those.

 

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Sorry, that PDF mark up you posted is terrible... we will now have alternate variations of the factory application. The only difference at the factory was the side to side variance, depending how the worker placed it on the hood. Even then, it was minor. If someone wants the dimensions they can ask... Since i posted this, another member here has been talking about his car and hood, so I don't say anything...

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2 hours ago, 7173Vert said:

Sorry, that PDF mark up you posted is terrible... we will now have alternate variations of the factory application. The only difference at the factory was the side to side variance, depending how the worker placed it on the hood. Even then, it was minor. If someone wants the dimensions they can ask... Since i posted this, another member here has been talking about his car and hood, so I don't say anything...

I did my best to read your writing. You're right, it is terrible, but if someone is out by a 1/16", do they really care? Looking at the way most hoods get painted, only the most anal amongst us will ever notice. Sorry for using your poor picture, I should have found and used David's.

 

Geoff.

 I learn something new every day!

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If someone can come up with some info set in stone on this, we can add it to the 7173 Tutorials so it will be easy to find and available for everyone!

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Another subject that has caused grief for 71-73 owners for years. As David (Carolina_Mountain_Mustang)  posted, the assembly line is a fast-paced world where line workers only had mere seconds to perform their assigned task. The paint room was lucky if they even had two minutes to place a multi-piece stencil and paint before the next hood came through. In that type of environment, it was inevitable that variances were going to happen. As I have posted before, Ford, along with the other manufacturers was in the business of mass-producing vehicles, not show cars. So there were no laser-guided robotics making perfect precision measurements then. In those days not much thought was given as to what someone might find in or on one of these vehicles 50 + years later!  Anyone I have talked that has an original tutone painted hood has noticed off-center measurements to the rear of the hood. I'm sure if your were to take the hood measurements from David's unmolested original hood  and compare them to other original non repainted tutone hoods there WILL be variances in the rear measurements

Graphic Express is the stripe/decal dealer that is supposed to have the correct hood stencil. Kit Sullivan was a forum member here and was an original owner of a '71 J code Mach 1. Two of their employees drove from Graphic express in Inverness, FL to his office in Orlando in '02, and spent several hours measuring and photographing his car. The template they sell is a product of those measurements. For some reason, the pictures they use to illustrate the hood accent is a stock picture that I have noticed a lot of the other decal and stripe vendors use and is not the correct look. Don't know why they didn't use one of the pictures they took of Kit's hood. They probably figured they didn't need my permission on what pictures to use! 

https://www.graphic-express.com/ford-motor-co/1964-78-mustang-restoration/mach-1-mustang/1971-mach-1/1971-73-mustang-mach-1-nasa-naca-hood-paint-stencil-kit.html

They show in stock and on sale! (If the link doesn't work you may have to enter manually as I have noticed some of my links have not been working on the new site)

Steve

 

No Officer...I really don't know how fast I was going, my speedometer stopped at 140!

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