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I have some questions about the blackout treatment for repainting my ‘72—I can’t remember what I did last time when I did the ‘73.  Here goes:

1) I know the blackout treatment wraps into the door jamb along the quarter panel and the rocker by about 3/4”.  Is there a precise measurement there?  

2) For the doors —what does the blackout wrap look like inside the doors?  

3) The rear body panel of my ‘72 is currently white with the black plastic honeycomb trim piece, I think the rear body panel goes white again, but is there a chance it should be black?

4) Not related, but inside the trunk—last time I spent a bunch of time and did a really nice base-clear paint job in the trunk in body color.  I am positive that is not correct, but it looked nice.  Is grey speckle the correct finish?  If so, does anyone have a good picture of OE so I know what to duplicate?

I have a schedule laid out, recruited my teenage son, we are about to get dirty!  We should be ready for the booths at work by the end of December unless I decide to go mountain biking instead - LOL.  

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1931 Ford Model A Station Wagon
1969 Mach 1 - 351C, TKO-600, 4WDB, R&P, A/C, Shaker, Fold Down, etc.
1972 Mach 1 - 351C, FMX, PDB, PS, A/C, Fold Down, Console
1996 Mustang Cobra Convertible - 10psi Procharger, 436rwhp

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This site has the paint information. http://429mustangcougarinfo.50megs.com. The 72 had the darker spatter paint. The paint is/was made by Zolotone. There are a couple of threads here on the matter. Chuck

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Thank you C9ZX—I remember that site, but had forgotten about it!  What a great resource.  Looks like I did it wrong last time!

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1931 Ford Model A Station Wagon
1969 Mach 1 - 351C, TKO-600, 4WDB, R&P, A/C, Shaker, Fold Down, etc.
1972 Mach 1 - 351C, FMX, PDB, PS, A/C, Fold Down, Console
1996 Mustang Cobra Convertible - 10psi Procharger, 436rwhp

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Here’s a few pics of the jambs I shot on a 71. And tail light panel. I measured the original black out on this car and copied it exactly. 

But if I remember correctly in 72 they changed how far in the jamb the black goes. 

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Kevin
1971 Mach 1

408C Stroker - C4 w/3,000 stall - 8.8" Rear w/3.73's - Disc brakes all way around.

 

 

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I  have an original 72 Mach 1 and 73 vert decor group with  black out is factory  original and not like the yellow car posted, I can get some pics tomorrow.
The  factory actually did  the black first then mask and  did body  color.  

 

 

 

factory  actually painted the     black      firsst   then     masked off     and  did   body color.

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When a man is in the woods and talks and no women are there is he still wrong??:P

David

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After spending time studying the photos on the 429 site and then sanding/stripping work on my car—wow, the original paint job was crap.  A combination of paint and striping tape on the lower section.  Then more paint applied over the top during a lousy repaint speculating in the 80’s or 90’s.  The thing that hacks me off the most is the people who repainted it didn’t even remove the hockey stick stripes—they just painted over them and then installed new ones!  WTF...  more work for me...grrr.  I have uncovered a fews other sins completed by whoever painted it as well, looks like I am in for a bigger project than originally planned.

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1931 Ford Model A Station Wagon
1969 Mach 1 - 351C, TKO-600, 4WDB, R&P, A/C, Shaker, Fold Down, etc.
1972 Mach 1 - 351C, FMX, PDB, PS, A/C, Fold Down, Console
1996 Mustang Cobra Convertible - 10psi Procharger, 436rwhp

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I was down to garage to put some meat in the freezer there. It was in the 20's last night and below freezing all day and  56 deg. in the garage. Amazing how it holds heat. There is no heat just sunlight.
So I took   some pictures of a 73 Decor group which is what is on the bottom of a Mach 1 or side stripe vert or coupe.
At the factory they applied the black then mask off and sprayed the body color.

 

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When a man is in the woods and talks and no women are there is he still wrong??:P

David

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Thanks for these photos Carolina—it is interesting the difference of the cars posted.  The 429 site has a few different styles than yours.  Yours is a ‘73, so I am going to follow the ‘72 stuff from the 429 site.  The most interesting things with yours are 1) the rockers and how the black wraps up into the sill/scuff plate; and 2) the tail light blackout application 1st.   Mine doesn’t have taillight blackout, but I haven’t dug under the paint there as yet to see what’s underneath.  

For aircraft stripper—unfortunately the good stuff was outlawed a few years ago.  Apparently a few people used in inside and the fumes killed them.  I know that stuff is crazy strong smelling.  I have yet to try the reformulated stuff, but I have been using a stripper that is working pretty good.  The fenders are almost ready for primer and I block sanded the roof (no stripper) tonight down to the OE finish.  The roof is absolutely fabulous.  I think that is the last time I will say anything nice about this project though.

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1931 Ford Model A Station Wagon
1969 Mach 1 - 351C, TKO-600, 4WDB, R&P, A/C, Shaker, Fold Down, etc.
1972 Mach 1 - 351C, FMX, PDB, PS, A/C, Fold Down, Console
1996 Mustang Cobra Convertible - 10psi Procharger, 436rwhp

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I have an original 72 also it was outside and I did not like the cold, lol. I will check it today and see if the same. It is blue with argent and never painted.

When a man is in the woods and talks and no women are there is he still wrong??:P

David

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I went and looked at the 72 Mach 1 and it does have a different pattern on the rocker than my 73 with decor group does. Would be interesting to see an original 73 vert with decor group and side stripes to see how they did the Argent / black. This car got crashed by a friend with 32,000 miles could never justify cost to put back together.

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When a man is in the woods and talks and no women are there is he still wrong??:P

David

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That is a really sad looking Mustang.  But thank you for the pictures.  What have I learned?  Almost anything goes!  

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1931 Ford Model A Station Wagon
1969 Mach 1 - 351C, TKO-600, 4WDB, R&P, A/C, Shaker, Fold Down, etc.
1972 Mach 1 - 351C, FMX, PDB, PS, A/C, Fold Down, Console
1996 Mustang Cobra Convertible - 10psi Procharger, 436rwhp

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So I was sanding the fender edges and cleaning up the backside today in prep for priming the fenders tomorrow.  I noticed the blackout even goes on the back side of the fender about 1/2” up from the very bottom—cleariy it was sprayed while off the car.  Snapped this picture—between the bolt holes on the single layer of sheet metal, you can see the black I am referring to.  Very sloppy application on the reinforced section, but I am not sure how original that paint is.  Both fenders exactly the same.  

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1931 Ford Model A Station Wagon
1969 Mach 1 - 351C, TKO-600, 4WDB, R&P, A/C, Shaker, Fold Down, etc.
1972 Mach 1 - 351C, FMX, PDB, PS, A/C, Fold Down, Console
1996 Mustang Cobra Convertible - 10psi Procharger, 436rwhp

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Yes, fenders and hood were painted off the car. Doors, quarter extensions and trunk lid were installed. 

Great pics and information on the lower body paint treatment on the 429 Megasite

 

http://www.429mustangcougarinfo.50megs.com/paint_info.htm

 

 

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They did do really sorry job painting back then. The only reason it got better today is that robots do it. Here is link you can see how they did back in the day. Is 1965 but same process. So much for keeping your gun perpendicular to the surface.

 

When a man is in the woods and talks and no women are there is he still wrong??:P

David

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