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It came in the mail today while I was installing the carpet in the interior. I do not have the ability to not open boxes when they get here. Its like Christmas in September. A couple things I noted. The air filter off of my old intake does not fit, what do I use? THe other thing is that the snorkle did not come with machine screws to install it on the body of the filter. THe ones on my existing intake do not fit. Whats up with that? I have 25 screws and 14 holes to put them in, whats up with that? No instructions other than the hose and its not readable. Again, whats up with that. Hey Steve, you have some splaining to do.

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Ok, I installed the kit today. I have a few questions to ask but I have a photo procedure for the next guy to do the install as well. BTW it takes 2 people to get it started, do not try it by yourself. The language coming out of your mouth will be horrendous.

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Yeah. The beer sooths the bruises a bit and yes, my wife told me to quit cussing. Them little holes in the under hood were hard to see. Did you figure that you had to remove the 8 machine screws to install the plenum properly? Thats why they send so many screws. I had to drill 2 holes to complete the job. Did you? BTW, what size bolt does the snorkle use. Oh and the other question, the EGR, which way does it go on as for the hoses? Thanks.

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Yeah. The beer sooths the bruises a bit and yes, my wife told me to quit cussing. Them little holes in the under hood were hard to see. Did you figure that you had to remove the 8 machine screws to install the plenum properly? Thats why they send so many screws. I had to drill 2 holes to complete the job. Did you? BTW, what size bolt does the snorkle use. Oh and the other question, the EGR, which way does it go on as for the hoses? Thanks.

 

Didn't have to drill any holes, and it took a few days before I realized I needed to remove the machine screws as well. My kit came with 2 sheet metal screws for the snorkle, gold in color. I'm attaching pics showing the carbon canister, pcv intake and driver's side pcv outflow to EGR spacer on carb.

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Was yours blue from the box? I did not get the screws and I have torn up both boxes and all screw bags looking for the screws. I spent over ahour going thru all of my spare screws looking for ones that would work. My problem with the egr is I do not know which hose goes on the plunger side of the EGR. Was your carb factory? I found that my edlebrock sits too high for the hood to close on the rubber. I have a 1" spacer between the carb and the edlebrock intake as well. I will have to pull that spacer. I wish there was a good way to measure this because I want something between the carb and the intake for heat reduction.

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When you pull the spacer out and put the air cleaner back on (and you determine you can close the hood without interference) put a ball of tin foil on top of the air cleaner and gently close the hood. You can measure the thickness of the foil ball after it is squished by the hood. Try it in several different locations to determine the smallest dimension. Hopefully you will at least have room for a 1/4" fiber spacer.

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I painted mine as soon as it arrived with heat resistant ford corporate blue spraypaint from Autozone. My carb is the original motorcraft 2100d with spacer, intake is stock as well. I think the hose you are looking for is a vacuum line, not the PCV hose off the breather cap on valve cover. Mustangunlimited and Autozone have vacuum diagrams online.

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When you pull the spacer out and put the air cleaner back on (and you determine you can close the hood without interference) put a ball of tin foil on top of the air cleaner and gently close the hood. You can measure the thickness of the foil ball after it is squished by the hood. Try it in several different locations to determine the smallest dimension. Hopefully you will at least have room for a 1/4" fiber spacer.

 

Yep. Looks like an expensive phenolic spacer is about to go on Ebay.

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Well. Just checked with CJ and the bolts do not come with the snorkle. Then checked with Dynacorn and the bolts do not come with the snorkle and they do not know what size I need to get. I am going to Lowes and Home Depot today with my housing and finding a damn bolt if its the last thing I do.

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I will try it this evening but its made in China so I doubt its American threads or size. Thanks

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Well Lowes did not have it. Ace did not have it. Home Depot did not have it so I got a self tapping 1/2" 10 bolt in stainless. I cannot believe I wasted 4 days on 2 freaking bolts. I could have drilled the damn things out and retapped them in one 10 minutes but I am so pissed, self tapping bolts will do.

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We have a Fastnel distributor down the road that has been an excellent for my previous projects. You can look them up on line and they have always been very helpful.

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I tried that. Both would start but not go any further then starting. One hole was bigger than the other, when I tried M4 in the holes one would screw in and the other would go right thru. When I tried M5 it would stick just like the size you mentioned.

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OK, that little round thing that operates your flapper in your snorkle. I thought that was the EGR valve but someone here told me no. It has a bimetal flap in it and the free end has a plunger. Which end goes to the snorkle flapper?

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Dude. What happened to the FUN part?

 

Man this stopped being fun after day 4 of looking for my nuts.......boltthingy....er.... fasteners.

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Oh I forgot one thing. I have 1/2" clearance between the top of the base and the ram air part thats attached to my hood. What is the minimum I need for a good seal but the hood closes properly.

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I can't believe you let two common screws get you all wound up like that :-/ Probably the most simplest form of "hotrodding" LOL! Wouldn't wanna be around you when its time to install the vacuum hoses :shrug2:

About the hood plenum and seal clearance. I just added carb spacers and watched the seal take form as it stayed compress. Don't know the clearance cause I can't get under the hood to measure once it's shut. Maybe someone else has a better idea. Take a break and unwined brother! Good luck with the rest of your install. Oh, and make sure you don't raise the carb too high and put a ding in the hood from the center air cleaner cover rod.

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Started to suffer from "wanting it perfect" myself. Then realized I "wanting to have some fun in this life time with this car" was more important.

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I can't believe you let two common screws get you all wound up like that :-/ Probably the most simplest form of "hotrodding" LOL! Wouldn't wanna be around you when its time to install the vacuum hoses :shrug2:

About the hood plenum and seal clearance. I just added carb spacers and watched the seal take form as it stayed compress. Don't know the clearance cause I can't get under the hood to measure once it's shut. Maybe someone else has a better idea. Take a break and unwined brother! Good luck with the rest of your install. Oh, and make sure you don't raise the carb too high and put a ding in the hood from the center air cleaner cover rod.

 

I thought about this and I actually wrote several paragraphs on it only to decide that I would come at it from a different angle. How many of us work hard to earn our money? I am sure many of you are like me and every penny earned was one you could use for anything else besides your car. Common sense says that when you pay for something and you get it, it should be as advertised. The part I ordered was advertised as the "complete ram air kit." Now think about this, you get your parts and you cant put them together because they do not include the bolts to put them together. Thats almost $500 you blew and you can't even put it together, unless you then contact the seller and pay another $9 for 2 bolts? That does not piss you off? It sure as hell pissed me off. I do not know, I guess if you were rich and all of these people out there selling you crap thats not complete or subpar does not bother you then its ok. Not for me though. As far as I am concerned when a vendor sells something they should charge the extra dollar these bolts actually cost and send them with the order. CJ's is selling real well nowadays and I know its hurting the other Mustang outlets because I have talked to them. If they want to be able to keep this up they need to get on the ball and make sure stuff like this does not happen in future. It took 7 days for me to get a reply from CJs and the reply was to offer to sell me 2 bolts at that high price. Now if that does not piss you off, you are not thinking.

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