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71BossPrototype & forum,

 

I understood the Boss 351 was introduced in Nov '70 at the Detroit Auto Show.

Do you or anyone have pics or info on this. Was your car used for this show also - maybe where they changed the 71 Boss 302 logos to Boss 351?

And I thought Mr Jeff Speagle (MCA Judge) had an original

press packet for this show. If anyone knows him, maybe he could post info?

 

Thanks! Ray

 

 

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Hi Ray. Here's a link to a Ford publicity photo that shows the altered lettering on the trunk.

http://www.7173mustangs.com/attachment.php?aid=7207

 

After cancellation of the Boss 302, it is believed that my car was later used as a Boss 351 promo due to the altered lettering that is still evident on the decklid. Here's the a thread with more info and photos of the 71 Boss 302:

http://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-the-lost-1971-302-boss

 

If you look at those Emminger notes I gave the link to above, she shows the cars being shipped to the Las Vegas Convention Center, the first day or two of production, in August of 1970. That show was not the same as the one that introduced the Boss 351, which I also believe was in November. Check out those links, they are pretty interesting. That would be great if Jeff Speagle could post photos from the press packet. Thanks for the info !

-Andy

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I would agree to wear those pants too, if they would have left the Boss 302 motor under the hood ! LOL !! :)

 

By the way, Donald Farr included the story about my car on pages 80 and 81 of his new Boss 302 book.

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This looks like the best thread for old assembly line pics.

 

While this one is not a Mustang it does list pic as taken in 1971 Lorain, Ohio

 

 

Ray

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1971 Boss 351  

1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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Those pictures are fantastic. I hope there are more out there. Thank you for posting them. The Boss tail light panel does appear a bit wavy.

Ron

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Those pictures are fantastic. I hope there are more out there. Thank you for posting them. The Boss tail light panel does appear a bit wavy.

Ron

 

Ron - I hope there are more too. And if anyone finds some - post them here!!!!

 

Ray

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1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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In the music video for Aretha Franklin's song "Freeway of Love" you will see rail cars delivering 71 or 72 Mach I Mustangs.

Not super clear but it is during the last 6-8 seconds of the video. You will recognize one of the assembly line pics posted above from same music video. Notice other factory footage (Ford and GM) from 70's and 80's. I noticed an 80-82 Fox platform T-bird, showing the pass rear side window area --- among others. How many different cars can you spot? Some are tough to see! Enjoy! - Ray

 

 


Okay after some discussion and further review - my mention of the Thunderbird might actually be a 1979 LTD 2-door. Just sayin...

 

Ray

 

Great assembly line video of 71/73's at 16 seconds. The 71/73's on the rail car at the end of the video are hard to make out, but they are "our" Mustangs. I wonder where they found the original video to make the music video.

 

Thanks for posting Ray!

My God! I almost forgot about the shot of our cars in this video. I remember watching this on MTV when they used to play music videos.

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I believe there were several other cars shipped there at the same time, ie: Diamonds Are Forever Mustangs...

 

FYI - in the effort to stop the rumor mill about the DAF cars whenever possible:

 

The two 429 cars in that list that are unfortunately now associated with Diamonds are Forever due to manipulated research (see Eminger's own notes along with the commentary of the former owner of the Ian Fleming car) are, in reality, a Las Vegas Convention Center show car and a press loan from Ford to a Peco Rivera.

 

The lot of 6 DAF cars were purchased nearly 4 months later, in the last month of March. The 429 car was purchased about a week later.

 

I have been asked not to disclose the source of this information yet, but - suffice it to say - this information comes from the top.

 

-Kurt

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I believe there were several other cars shipped there at the same time, ie: Diamonds Are Forever Mustangs...

 

FYI - in the effort to stop the rumor mill about the DAF cars whenever possible:

 

The two 429 cars in that list that are unfortunately now associated with Diamonds are Forever due to manipulated research (see Eminger's own notes along with the commentary of the former owner of the Ian Fleming car) are, in reality, a Las Vegas Convention Center show car and a press loan from Ford to a Peco Rivera.

 

The lot of 6 DAF cars were purchased nearly 4 months later, in the last month of March. The 429 car was purchased about a week later.

 

I have been asked not to disclose the source of this information yet, but - suffice it to say - this information comes from the top.

 

-Kurt

 

You heard the voice of God?

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I believe there were several other cars shipped there at the same time, ie: Diamonds Are Forever Mustangs...

 

FYI - in the effort to stop the rumor mill about the DAF cars whenever possible:

 

The two 429 cars in that list that are unfortunately now associated with Diamonds are Forever due to manipulated research (see Eminger's own notes along with the commentary of the former owner of the Ian Fleming car) are, in reality, a Las Vegas Convention Center show car and a press loan from Ford to a Peco Rivera.

 

The lot of 6 DAF cars were purchased nearly 4 months later, in the last month of March. The 429 car was purchased about a week later.

 

I have been asked not to disclose the source of this information yet, but - suffice it to say - this information comes from the top.

 

-Kurt

 

You heard the voice of God?

 

Get the Waterboard out...we will make him talk! It was the DAF movie that made me fall in love with the car. However, I never knew at the time that they used a couple of 429 cars. By the time I ordered my car in 72 the 429 was gone.

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You heard the voice of God?

 

If God makes a mean-looking Cougar convertible conversion...

 

Get the Waterboard out...we will make him talk! It was the DAF movie that made me fall in love with the car. However, I never knew at the time that they used a couple of 429 cars. By the time I ordered my car in 72 the 429 was gone.

 

Despite what you may have heard, the sales indicate that only one 429 was purchased late in the game. Three M-codes and two H-codes made up the original fleet, provided by Ford to Eon Productions/Danjaq over the final week of March 1971.

 

One of those M-codes went on to become the Tournament of Thrills stunt car after the film; this is the example that resides in the Dezer Collection.

 

-Kurt

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Kurt,

I had always heard over the years (from several different sources) that the initial batch of cars was used for all the driving scenes, including the initial attempt at the 2-wheel 'ski" scene down the alley and that the driver (Buzz Bundy? Bumps Willard?) had no ( or little)troubles doing it on the passeger wheels in the small block car(s).

Some time later, due to the director needing fresh footage of the car leaving the alley that portion of the stunt was set up for reshoots.

The original American stunt team (Joie Chitwood's?) was not available so the only other person that could do the stunt at the time was a french stunt driver, who was brought in for that particular stunt.

He had much trouble trying to replicate the stunt and rolled/damaged some or all of the small block cars attempting to do it.

Apparently he felt that the small blocks did not have the low-end power he needed to perform the stunt so a 429 car was quickly sourced for that one scene. Also, he could only do the stunt on the driver-side wheels...leading to the outrageous blooper we all know about.

 

So...is that accurate? How close is it to the truth.

 

Also, I find it odd that no decent amount of raw footage of the stunt has surfaced to date. I have never seen any of the failed attempts at the stunt, although there is plenty of raw footage of many other James Bond stunts available.

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Not a production line pic, but a pretty cool shot here from the 1973 Chicago Auto Show:

 

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Choices, Choices, and my parents picked the turd brown 1973 Country Squire wagon in the background!

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Kurt,

I had always heard over the years (from several different sources) that the initial batch of cars was used for all the driving scenes, including the initial attempt at the 2-wheel 'ski" scene down the alley and that the driver (Buzz Bundy? Bumps Willard?) had no ( or little)troubles doing it on the passeger wheels in the small block car(s).

Some time later, due to the director needing fresh footage of the car leaving the alley that portion of the stunt was set up for reshoots.

The original American stunt team (Joie Chitwood's?) was not available so the only other person that could do the stunt at the time was a french stunt driver, who was brought in for that particular stunt.

He had much trouble trying to replicate the stunt and rolled/damaged some or all of the small block cars attempting to do it.

Apparently he felt that the small blocks did not have the low-end power he needed to perform the stunt so a 429 car was quickly sourced for that one scene. Also, he could only do the stunt on the driver-side wheels...leading to the outrageous blooper we all know about.

 

So...is that accurate? How close is it to the truth.

 

Also, I find it odd that no decent amount of raw footage of the stunt has surfaced to date. I have never seen any of the failed attempts at the stunt, although there is plenty of raw footage of many other James Bond stunts available.

 

The story as I heard it was that the 302 cars were rolled at the Universal Studios backlot (the alleyway entrance scene), and not on location (the exit) - and I tend to believe that this story is complete fiction.

 

To begin with, the Ford sales records showed that not a single 302 car fitting the description of the Diamonds are Forever vehicles were sold/transferred to Ford Film & TV during that critical time period when the rest of the cars were purchased.

 

Secondly, the cars that perform the alleyway exit stunt were both photographed from the bottom - including the deleted stunt performed by the US crew. Both cars have dual exhaust and 351C exhaust manifolds, excluding the possibility that the exit cars are F or H-codes - and I spent a long time examining it to make sure that neither showed evidence of being 429s. They are not; they're M-codes. Additionally, the deleted alleyway exit stunt was done with a car wearing blackwalls, as was the studio stunt; suggesting the stunt was done by one and the same car, meaning that all two-wheeled stunts were done with M-codes.

 

I'd heard that the 429 car was sourced for the purpose of achieving those power doughnuts on the strip during the police chase, not for the two-wheeled stunt.

 

The stunt was re-shot due to a large crowd of people obviously watching the stunt from in front of the "Race Book" building. I've been told that the French driver who performed the wrong-wheeled stunt is Remy Julienne, and that he could only do the stunt on the left wheels. I don't buy that.

 

One of the H-code Machs can be seen doing the jump out of the parking lot. It or it's twin is also seen for a minute in the parking lot chase. Look for the single exhaust car.

 

-Kurt

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Great pics Frank. I wonder where that Boss 351 is today?

Steve

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Posted this in another thread but thought it needed to be here too.

 

1971 Mexico City Auto Show pic.

 

Sure looks like a Mexican Shelby display or maybe another aftermarket supplier similar to Shelby's 'Autosport' brand.

 

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Check out the Motor Wheel 'Spyder" wheels on the hardtop. Louvers :dodgy: , unique striping and spoiler :dodgy: make it look like a Mexican GT-351 model.

 

Ray

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1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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Wow! The louvers and blackout on the sail panels look like something other companies like AMC would actually have used on their performance cars.

Very cool.

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Cool old thread! Bump.

 

Ray

1971 Boss 351  

1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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Here is another video about the manufacturing process.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YBrvPwRMXA

 

Ray

1971 Boss 351  

1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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Video about the assembly line worker back in the early 70's.

 

GM based but applies to UAW jobs of the time.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6xs8vtGqoY

 

Ray

1971 Boss 351  

1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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Lots of excellent info for our cars archived on this site!!!!!

Many have never seen the rail cars delivering them.

Ray

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1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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