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i purchased the pefect length trailer for the prefect price recently to haul the mustang to shows/races/races/races :D:D.

 

its a 16x8.5 but only comes with 4 feet ramps. my friends and i played with a certain few ways to do it and nothing works. we tried adding another car ramp tire with the ramps on the car already, fail. i tried putting my truck rear tires on the ramps and pu the short 4 feet ramps on it sit hits the front spoiler really hard but stil, fail.

 

what is the trick of getting our lowered/front spoiler stangs on the trailers? the u-hauls i always get i would lift the front as much as i can and then the front spoiler would only rub a little bit and it would drive on ok. i think the ramps were at least 8 feet long i think.

 

ideas? ::help::::help::

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Dove tail trailer and longer ramps.

 

will 6 feet ramps make that much of a difference? this isnt a dove tail, a dovetail was available was it was the narrower model and wasn't only 100 dollars cheaper.

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Wish I could help but I have an 18' tilt bed. Is it possible to buy a stinger with about an 8-12" offset, invert it, then jack the trailer up and connect to that while loading/unloading? A bit of a hassle, but would change the approach angle.

 

Steve

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Wish I could help but I have an 18' tilt bed. Is it possible to buy a stinger with about an 8-12" offset, invert it, then jack the trailer up and connect to that while loading/unloading? A bit of a hassle, but would change the approach angle.

 

Steve

 

i could invision jacking up the trailer so many inches but you can only jack up the front of the tailer so high before the back end of the truck starts to really lift up and possible pull the tires off the ground.

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There is a neat lil gizmo that the rat rod guys use... A buddy of mine has one in the car club in in... I will get the real name from him next meet up... His dodge is inches from the ground andvhe loads it up for long hauls

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Wish I could help but I have an 18' tilt bed. Is it possible to buy a stinger with about an 8-12" offset, invert it, then jack the trailer up and connect to that while loading/unloading? A bit of a hassle, but would change the approach angle.

 

Steve

+1 on the tilt bed ! I don't use ramps. You need a dove tail like Chuck said, and even then will probably have to jack it up. A cheap trailer is not always cheap in the long run, ask me how I know?:blush:

 

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Jack the front of the trailer up as suggested and stagger stack 2 or 3 2"x12" sections under the end of the ramps (making the ramps longer).

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How hard is it to remove the spoiler? :idea: Mayby figured out a quick release to take the spoiler off when towing. I bought an 18 foot car hauler last March, but have had no reason to put a car on it yet. I guess I need to try it out!

Mike AKA Ole Pony & Rare Pony
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i purchased the pefect length trailer for the prefect price recently to haul the mustang to shows/races/races/races :D:D.

 

its a 16x8.5 but only comes with 4 feet ramps. my friends and i played with a certain few ways to do it and nothing works. we tried adding another car ramp tire with the ramps on the car already, fail. i tried putting my truck rear tires on the ramps and pu the short 4 feet ramps on it sit hits the front spoiler really hard but stil, fail.

 

what is the trick of getting our lowered/front spoiler stangs on the trailers? the u-hauls i always get i would lift the front as much as i can and then the front spoiler would only rub a little bit and it would drive on ok. i think the ramps were at least 8 feet long i think.

 

ideas? ::help::::help::

 

I ran into same type of situation, took about 15 minutes to remove the spoiler, quickest solution I could come up with at the time.

Jim

 

M code 71 Mach 1, 351 4V Cleveland, Ram Air (not factory), C6 Trans, 3.5 rear

 

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I believe the easiest thing to do is remove the front spoiler and that'll gain at least 4-5 inches. I will try to find some layovers or something for now.

 

Just the jack alone at the lowest point I got a 19.5 trailer height at the back.

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Ultimately you will need a more permanent solution as "get me by's" are a pain.

 

#1 - Consider adding a dove tail to your trailer with the slant and length that you need to properly work with the ramps you have.

 

#2 - A set of 2X6 ramps with supporting legs that fit in the bed of your pickup might be an inexpensive and not too much hassel way to go.

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I used to use my buddies 18ft. trailer and never had a problem with the front spoiler.He had 5 ft ramps with it. Thhe only problem I had was backing it off. The drivers side header would catch coming off. A block of wood under the drivers wheel cured that.

Jim

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Ultimately you will need a more permanent solution as "get me by's" are a pain.

 

#1 - Consider adding a dove tail to your trailer with the slant and length that you need to properly work with the ramps you have.

 

#2 - A set of 2X6 ramps with supporting legs that fit in the bed of your pickup might be an inexpensive and not too much hassel way to go.

 

i'm looking into some "layover ramps" but anything over 5.5 long is going to be a little hassel cuz the truck bed is only 5.5 feet long.

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Here is a different but possible solution:

 

http://www.tiltahitch.com/video.htm

 

Ray

 

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I ran into same type of situation, took about 15 minutes to remove the spoiler, quickest solution I could come up with at the time.

 

Yup..dont take too long..but not something you want to take on and off all the time..lol..My car used to have a front spoiler till bad roads and curbs snapped it...They do look good with spoiler...But wasnt worth the hassle at the time...I mite put one back on when im older and its more of a trailer queen..lol

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I ran into same type of situation, took about 15 minutes to remove the spoiler, quickest solution I could come up with at the time.

 

Yup..dont take too long..but not something you want to take on and off all the time..lol..My car used to have a front spoiler till bad roads and curbs snapped it...They do look good with spoiler...But wasnt worth the hassle at the time...I mite put one back on when im older and its more of a trailer queen..lol

 

they sure do look good with spoilers but i'm mosly racing mine now and drive it only to work. so off it goes this week or until i load it on the trailer next weekend.


Here is a different but possible solution:

 

http://www.tiltahitch.com/video.htm

 

Ray

 

 

i'm really liking this. however i did drive my rear tires on my friends truck ramps he uses and still no cigar. i think the ramps were only about 9 inches tall.

 

 

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I agree removing the spoiler would be a hassle if you're going to be transporting on the trailer often, I removed my spoiler because I only need to transport it once on a trailer.

 

Might be a silly suggestion but have you tried backing it on?

Jim

 

M code 71 Mach 1, 351 4V Cleveland, Ram Air (not factory), C6 Trans, 3.5 rear

 

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Hauling a car backwards... beware of the doors not being secured and coming open!

I have seen it happen - following behind! It was a Camaro but still hurt. '93 model, I think.

They were in a hurry - trying to beat the weather and OUCH! Didn't want to take the time to use a strap and rope was not tight enough. At about 65 mph, door opened slightly and the wind caught it!!!

My suggestion- don't do it!

 

Ray

 

 

 

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1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 

1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 

1971 Hardtop (parts car)

1973 Mach 1 (parts car)

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http://www.uhaul.com/articles/tips/118/transporting-vehicles-with-low-ground-clearance

 

 

i learned alot from this link!!! therefore, instead of spending $320+ on race ramps or other ramps, i am going to make my own ramps from the link above and just screw them together.

 

c9 above also recommended doing this and once i re-read the post and thought about what he said, i looked it up and thought it would be the easiest thing to do.

 

i'm going to start with a length of the longest board being the width of the truck sideways so it'l fit in there.

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Another option is to air down the trailer tires. I have an 18 foot with a dove tail and we have carried my buddies viper a couple of times.We just air down the rear axle and that give me enough of a kneel with my 4 foot ramps.

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today i found some success. i tested out on my wife's mustang first. i measured at the lowest point at the front is 6 inches. on the mustang, the front spoiler is 5.5 inches at its lowest point. removing the spoiler will gain about another 2.25 inches. the lowest point on the front valance is the sides of it which is 7.75 inches.

 

i bought some rhino ramps today that are made of composite and they say they are rated at 6000lbs per axle (wow, 12000lbs rating). they were awesome today when i had to change oil on the 2011 f150 and the 07 mustang. these ramps are a little bit taler than my friends ramps so they tilted the hitch up a little higher.

 

the hitch i have lowers the hitch about 2 inches or so and i inverted it so now it sits 2 inches from the receiver. with no load on the truck at all, with the hitch pointed down, the trailer was perfectly levelish. with no load with it inverted it now sticks up a bit (with some tongue weight it'll settle down and be level.

 

just like the guys are the race track, i drove my rear tires onto my new rhino ramps. (pictured) now my hitch is now 29 inches off of the ground. with no blocks of wood with the jack all the way up, i have the rear of the trailer at 19.5 inches off the ground. with the trailer hooked up to the truck and on ramps, it now sits about 15.5 inches off the ground (pictured).

 

i have the wire slowly approach the ramps and watch for something to hit, when the tires just come into contact with the ramps, there is ever so slightly a tad rub on the bottom of the front bumper. my wife somehow still kept on coming forward and she started coming onto the trailer. nothing wrong, she got the whole front tires onto the trailer and at a certain point of the middle of the car, the car is about 2 inches from touching the trailer, but as she starts to get the rear tires to contact the ramps the clearance maintains at 2 inches and then the rear tires get up the ramps. she slowly makes it all the way up the trailer (pictured)

 

now i wanted to test if how level the tongue would be with some tongue weight so i pulled the truck off of the ramps and checked to see how the leveling of the trailer. its almost perfect (pictured. there is a huge difference from the uhaul trailer i usually get thats 14 feet and the front tires have to touch the front of the trailer making all kinds of tongue weight and weighing down the rearend.

 

with the trailer with no weight on there is angled up a bit and with the car on the trailer it now makes it level, i'm assuming it has enough tongue weight.

 

i'm going to go ahead and play it safe for the races this saturday and buy some 2x12 boards and give me about 3 more inches. i need the boards to fit into the bed so my longest board will be about 5.5 feet, then a second board about 4.5 feet. place the ramps on top of the second board and lay another 3.5 feet board on top of the 2nd board and offset it a bit and place a top board behind it. that'll lift the ramps up 3 inches and give me a slow ramps before hitting the trailer ramps.

 

so this beats paying for 410 dollars worth of 8 feet race ramps. i get myself some convienence ramps for oil changes and pay only about 40 dollars or so for wood.

 

i'll take pictures this weekend on saturday when i make it out to the races. next is to install a winch!!!


i'm still really liking the tilt a hitch, it might be a good alternative to the ramps. or at least eliminate the boards.

 

the downfall of the tilt a hitch is only its huge and ugly and sticks out the trailer back even further. it is rated to 8000lbs still though.

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