71-73 Mustang LED tail lights

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Hi, I'm in talks with Gary from VintageLEDS.com over on vintage-mustang.com about LED tail light setup for our cars.

Here's the discussion: https://www.vintage-mustang.com/threads/vintage-leds-product-expansions.1182195/

He asked me to ask you all about who'd be interested in a setup for our cars and how it needs to be installed.

Are you more interested in just plug and play insertion into the current tail light housing with no modifications? He said these would be more expensive b/c have to split it into 3 boards vs 1 to go into the 3 segments.

I asked about removing the 2 partitions in the housing and utilizing a cone to direct the backup white light to that lens and let the rest of the area be the usual stop/tail/turn light. This way it can reduce cost and be 1 board, although you'd have to modify your tail light housing by cutting out the partitions.

What's your pick? 3 segments or 1?

He mentioned Dapper lighting @ https://www.dapperlighting.com/products/1971-1973-ford-mustang-advanced-sequential-led-tail-lights

Their product uses 3 boards but cheaper quality, smaller LED's than he utilizes and isn't the quality product he produces.

Let me know your input here and I'll pass it on to Gary, then post back here for you.

No investment in the product, just trying to help a fellow Mustang guy and small business man (now that he's laid off from company merger)

Curtis

 

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I love the sequential Mustang tail lights, I even  use my turn signal more then I should in my 2014.  I would like them on my '72 but $300 just seems a little silly for me to spend and I can afford it without question, I am just not sure I want to.

 

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Hi, I'm in talks with Gary from VintageLEDS.com over on vintage-mustang.com about LED tail light setup for our cars.

Here's the discussion: https://www.vintage-mustang.com/threads/vintage-leds-product-expansions.1182195/

He asked me to ask you all about who'd be interested in a setup for our cars and how it needs to be installed.

Are you more interested in just plug and play insertion into the current tail light housing with no modifications? He said these would be more expensive b/c have to split it into 3 boards vs 1 to go into the 3 segments.

I asked about removing the 2 partitions in the housing and utilizing a cone to direct the backup white light to that lens and let the rest of the area be the usual stop/tail/turn light. This way it can reduce cost and be 1 board, although you'd have to modify your tail light housing by cutting out the partitions.

What's your pick? 3 segments or 1?

He mentioned Dapper lighting @ https://www.dapperlighting.com/products/1971-1973-ford-mustang-advanced-sequential-led-tail-lights

Their product uses 3 boards but cheaper quality, smaller LED's than he utilizes and isn't the quality product he produces.

Let me know your input here and I'll pass it on to Gary, then post back here for you.

No investment in the product, just trying to help a fellow Mustang guy and small business man (now that he's laid off from company merger)

Curtis
Hey guys!

Saw some traffic coming from the forum so I thought I'd drop by and introduce Dapper Lighting. We've been around for about 10 years and are a small business producing OE grade classic car lighting parts. Our headlamps are produced in house in Novato, CA and are used in some popular OE applications such as Charge Cars (Mustang), The Official Eleanor Mustang (Mustang), and The New Trans Am  (Trans Am). 

Generally competing manufacturers have never used or tested our products and unfortunately tend to make non-factual claims about our products. 

In any case, we are always open to working with any and all businesses to help produce great products for classic car owners.

Just remember, take what salesmen say with a grain of salt :)

Cheers!

 
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If you simple rework your housings you will be amazed how much brighter they are cost maybe $10.00. The housings turn brown inside and get chalky. If you blast them with low pressure and sand or walnut shells and then spray with Krylon Fusion satin white paint they look brand new. I have done several sets and also side marker lights. I did the black out also. The only pic I have with lights on is just a flash at the end of a video when I go to reverse. 
I hate people that go to LED that is way too bright I want to just crash into them. Headlights or tail lights.

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If you simple rework your housings you will be amazed how much brighter they are cost maybe $10.00. The housings turn brown inside and get chalky. If you blast them with low pressure and sand or walnut shells and then spray with Krylon Fusion satin white paint they look brand new. I have done several sets and also side marker lights. I did the black out also. The only pic I have with lights on is just a flash at the end of a video when I go to reverse. 
I hate people that go to LED that is way too bright I want to just crash into them. Headlights or tail lights.

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Thanks for the reply David. I never said my lights were dim. I want and will have LED lights on my cars and I know others want the same. I'm also looking into reconfiguring my tail lights to 3 full red segments so they can be different and fully sequential instead of a reverse light in the middle.

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I spoke with Gary again and here's what the PCB layout will look like. See the attached PDF file

Per Gary, "[SIZE=12pt]I have 12 white LEDs for the reverse lights.  Intermixed there are 9 amber on a separate circuit.  This way, someone can use the reverse light lens as an amber turn light.  May be useful in Europe and Australia."[/SIZE]

They'll cost $295 a set

Anyone ready to sign up for a set?

I'm in for 1 right now myself.

Curtis

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Gary makes a very nice product!

 

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If you simple rework your housings you will be amazed how much brighter they are cost maybe $10.00. The housings turn brown inside and get chalky. If you blast them with low pressure and sand or walnut shells and then spray with Krylon Fusion satin white paint they look brand new. I have done several sets and also side marker lights. I did the black out also. The only pic I have with lights on is just a flash at the end of a video when I go to reverse. 
I hate people that go to LED that is way too bright I want to just crash into them. Headlights or tail lights.

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Those are very nice, David.  And you're right about simply cleaning up and refreshing the 'reflective' surfaces - makes a ton of difference.

I know my tail light lenses suffer from 'still holding together, but cracks running everywhere,' that show up in direct sunlight despite being almost invisible when not. I just scored a handful of some new ones, which I'll be cleaning up and prepping to stuff in some of the Vintage LED panels - best of both worlds.  It won't be quite as cool as the 'Obsidian tail light mod' that I still really want, but at least they'll be bright, sequential across all-three segments, and won't have any more cracks.

This is what I have - the driver side is worse, actually:

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And this is what I'm talking about with the Obsidian tail light mod - remember these?  Yeah... still makes me mad, but damn they're cool:

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Those are very nice, David. And you're right about simply cleaning up and refreshing the 'reflective' surfaces - makes a ton of difference.

I know my tail light lenses suffer from 'still holding together, but cracks running everywhere,' that show up in direct sunlight despite being almost invisible when not. I just scored a handful of some new ones, which I'll be cleaning up and prepping to stuff in some of the Vintage LED panels - best of both worlds. It won't be quite as cool as the 'Obsidian tail light mod' that I still really want, but at least they'll be bright, sequential across all-three segments, and won't have any more cracks.

This is what I have - the driver side is worse, actually:

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And this is what I'm talking about with the Obsidian tail light mod - remember these? Yeah... still makes me mad, but damn they're cool:

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Be on the lookout, Scott Keller and I are working on new lenses. We want to try to right the wrong that Mike did with collecting money on a product that never got completed. Scott ended up with a full set for his Mach and I ended up with one lens to try to build an LED panel to make it all work as intended in my original design given to Mike to produce. Racer X, see the prototype LED boards below. The LED board worked as a running light, brake light and backup light. The red LED's are dual intensity, however they do not work sequentially. My original design was three individual boards, but will probably work better as one board.
 

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