Question about Matte black

[perfdavid]

Getting close to the point where the paint is going to be laid by the shop.

I am going canary yellow with matte black.

I understand some of this is personal preference, but

Do most people paint all black parts matte? Meaning the hood,

Spoiler, rocker panels, etc or should some parts still be gloss?

I told them to make everything matte black but it isn't to late to change it.

Thanks

 

[caspianwendell]

You are right it is personal preference. I have seen both matte and gloss and both look great, as for me I am going gloss so I can blend the clear coat so there are no paint lines

 

[71_resurrection]

IMHO and from experience, I would do it all gloss. I had the parts you are talking about done in matte about 9 years ago and most all of it started to fade by year3, ended up sanding it and redoing it myself...now this could have been the shops fault in not knowing how to lay flat and let it cure, or maybe they just used spray paint (which I think was the case). Either way, I think they both look good as long as the shop knows what they are doing. I see plenty of stangs in matte and a fair share in gloss, personal preference is key here.

 

[OPN PONY]

Getting close to the point where the paint is going to be laid by the shop.

I am going canary yellow with matte black.

I understand some of this is personal preference, but

Do most people paint all black parts matte? Meaning the hood,

Spoiler, rocker panels, etc or should some parts still be gloss?

I told them to make everything matte black but it isn't to late to change it.

Thanks

I went for matte to look a little more original but I can see what others are saying. The matte black will take a beating if it is in the sun a lot. Not sure if laying some wax on it a little more often would help there or not.

Sounds like you have decided on the matte so,

- I think most people would go with matte black everywhere you have black trim on the exterior. Not sure about the spoiler, I don't have one.

- Be careful if you choose to put a stripe kit on the sides: I've heard most parts suppliers assume people want the gloss and therefore ship gloss stripes unless you indicate matte in your order. Matte hood, rockers and gloss hockey stick stripes looks a little "off" I think.

- Just a suggestion but I'd get your paint guy to try a couple of different ratios of black paint : flattening agent. Then decide which you like best or which matches stripes (if you choose to use them). I think the usual version is 1:1 but my paint guy suggested 2 parts paint : 1 part flattening agent. It seems to match the side stripes on my car pretty well.

Hope that helps.

 

[bkdunha]

Information obtained from the 429 Megasite inclusive of the feedback from the guy working on my car.

Hood Paint

Bob Perkin's states the correct NON-textured 71 black hood paint PPG quarts were the one's labeled DDL-9423. He also states the PPG DAR-9000, (which was the exterior gloss black whole body paint), can have 30-35% of PPG's DX265 flattener added to it to produce the proper 71 black hood finish. In another article, he indicated that too much flattener gives the black a milky look. Unfortunately, this paint (Duracryl DDL 9423) is now obsolete. A quart of this paint recently went for $200 on E-Bay.

New Paint Methods for getting the correct Hood, Engine Compartment and lower blackout:

Mustang Expert and owner of Mustang Central, Allan Shepley, has generously provided the 429 Megasite with the below information on achieving the correct appearance for our 71 Mustang hoods, lower blackout and underhood black using currently available products. Prior to Allan's help, people had to come up with something themselves since the old DDL-9423 is either unavailable (or very hard to find). Thanks Allan!!

John Blair ~ 429 Megasite Webmaster

I build Mustangs for a living and struggled for a long time to find the best paint for hoods and engine compartments as well as the lower black out area. The biggest problem you have with semi-gloss black with new paints, not lacquer, is getting an even finish. Most of them look splotchy or too flat or too glossy. The problem with most is you add a flattener to your clear, but the results are very inconsistent. I finally found PPG's DCU 2060 it is a premixed clear that already has the perfect mix. All you add is the hardener DCX61 and reducer DT 885. The ratio is 6 parts DCU 2060, 1 part DCX61, and 1 Part DT885. You use your black paint of choice IE. Dupont, PPG, R&M, whatever you like and topcoat with the PPG DCU 2060. Apply two wet coats and when its fully dried you have the perfect finish. Not only does it look good but it also is very stain resistant, you can wax it if you like it will not make it look powdery. Its great in the engine compartment for a fantastic look and a tough durable and easy to clean surface. I better quit I'm sounding like a commercial.

Allan

Mustang Central

 

[perfdavid]

Getting close to the point where the paint is going to be laid by the shop.

I am going canary yellow with matte black.

I understand some of this is personal preference, but

Do most people paint all black parts matte? Meaning the hood,

Spoiler, rocker panels, etc or should some parts still be gloss?

I told them to make everything matte black but it isn't to late to change it.

Thanks

I - I think most people would go with matte black everywhere you have black trim on the exterior. Not sure about the spoiler, I don't have one.

- Be careful if you choose to put a stripe kit on the sides: I've heard most parts suppliers assume people want the gloss and therefore ship gloss stripes unless you indicate matte in your order. Matte hood, rockers and gloss hockey stick stripes looks a little "off" I think.

- Just a suggestion but I'd get your paint guy to try a couple of different ratios of black paint : flattening agent. Then decide which you like best or which matches stripes (if you choose to use them). I think the usual version is 1:1 but my

Thanks. When I ordered my striping kit I did specify for the flat.

 

[OLE PONY]

I went with the original matte black since it ties in with the honeycomb grill finish. My body shop had to try several times to get the matte black right, it was too shiny at first.

 

[Paul of MO]

I went with the original matte black since it ties in with the honeycomb grill finish. My body shop had to try several times to get the matte black right, it was too shiny at first.

My 15 year old son and I are doing his first mustang - a 73 convert with a 351 2V / C6

He wants to paint the whole car a deep satin black/dark dark charcol and then have the correct 1973 striping be gloss black. All the chrome will be factory correct and super shiny. I think it is going to look good.

Black interior and a black top. The car came with the correct 73 aluminum wheels but we may opt for 15 inch Magnum 500's.

The car is at the bodyshop getting a "rustectomy" and we should be getting it back by mid July.

We are goint to try to do as much of the rest of it as we can as a team but still get it done by next March.

I will post pics

- Paul

 

[69 Rustang]

On the last two Mach 1's I have painted, I buried the black and the body color in clear. On my '72, I just painted the entire hood flat black with a PPG fleet product. This was my first attempt at flat black, I have done many semi-gloss sprays in the past, but flat black was a new one for me. It came out OK, but not perfect.

I like the look of both flat/semi- and full-gloss black, so I appreciate both finishes. It is a personal preference how you want your car to appear. I figure Ford had their way with it many years ago, and it is now well out of warranty--since I own it I am doing what I want at this point. Do whatever you like best!