WOW!! Not mine (I wish!).Our Holy Grail. 71 J-code convertible 1 of 1 on Ebay

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Looks like its been tweaked a bit with paint / body, but nothing outrageous. I'm gonna disagree on the $$ -- maybe half that....

 
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very nice car but, 71 didnt have those PS hoses. Which makes everything else about the originality suspect. I hate the side moldings. The front chin spoiler without the rear deck spoiler looks strange and unbalanced, especially with the high gloss (wrong) hood paint. But nothing that couldnt be sorted out in a week's time. also....the pic of the engine bay clearly shows how much room there is to "drop in" a BOSS-9 engine, especially if you use the massive 1 1/4" header pipes. :)

 
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I think its pretty awesome!

 
Guys,

Question on trunk...the inside trunk quarters and drop offs are painted body color...I thought the 71-3s came blacked out?? Anyone know since I am restoring my 73.

Thanks

Jeff

 
Guys,

Question on trunk...the inside trunk quarters and drop offs are painted body color...I thought the 71-3s came blacked out?? Anyone know since I am restoring my 73.

Thanks

Jeff
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Jeff that car is not correct it has had paint work

 
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Guys,

Question on trunk...the inside trunk quarters and drop offs are painted body color...I thought the 71-3s came blacked out?? Anyone know since I am restoring my 73.

Thanks

Jeff
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Jeff that car is not correct it has had paint work
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+1 not even close on paint

 
Did I miss where it said it was never repainted or 100% concourse? Granted I learned something new but still...
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Agree, the seller isn't claiming it's the original paint or concourse, he's not even claiming it's rust free (in fact the pic of the trunk appears to show serious rust covered over in the left lower corner of the pic plus no pics of the undercarriage) The seller appears to be basing the price on the rarity of the car, a 1 of 1.

Jim

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Guys, you can beat this car up all you want, but if you can't appreciate how rare this car is, then you have to go back to school. I am telling you, this IS the Holy Grail. They only made 23 429CJ auto convertibles. Only a handful even exist today. Regarding the options/side moldings etc, go read a little about the differences in the options for 71,72,and 73. I don't like the side moldings either, but that is part of the appearance protection group package. This was a Ford Marketing car. I think every option was checked off by the guy ordering this car. It was probably an oversight that he didn't check off power windows. Maybe he thought the extra weight might slow the car down. Who knows? This car has more nice options than almost any 71 car out there. In my life, I only saw one 429CJ more optioned out. It was bright blue metallic (not red), had power windows, and was also a Ford Executive car. Most 71 convertibles were incredibly stripped down. 71 was the ONLY year that Ford would stick you with drum front brakes, standard interior, standard seat belts, and a flat hood on a 3514V convertible car. Heck, in order to get the lower rocker moldings and wheel lip moldings, you had to pay extra for the exterior décor group package in 1971. At least in 72 Ford threw in a lot of goodies as standard equipment, like a non functional ram air/NASA hood with the Q- code option, deluxe seatbelts, deluxe door panels, the cool Mach I grill with the Décor group option, the ability to get side stripes with the décor group option, power front disc brakes standard, etc. But here's the deal. The 429CJ motor was only available in 1971! Take your pick. Go with a 72 and get more options but have a 351C as the biggest power plant, or choose a 429CJ 1971. Which would you want? This car has it ALL. Nearly every 1971 option, the BEST color scheme, and a 429CJ! The only thing I would have added to this car new in 1971 would have been a 4 speed and power windows. Bottom line though, I guarantee this is as close as you could have come to the best optioned 1971-1973 from the factory. Regarding the front spoiler, NO BIG DEAL. You could always swap out an NOS front valance on this car and not change the value. But drill holes in the factory deck lid that came with the car to put on a rear spoiler? THAT'S SACRILIGE! I know we can all build these cars just the way we want to. If you do it right, you could build a car nicer than this one with more options at a fraction of the cost. But it would not be original! You have to give credit where credit is due. This is not my car, but I am still praising it, because I have enough experience with these cars to know just how rare it is. The only other 429CJ car out there that compares is Mickey Grafias' 71 Grabber Lime convertible. And it is incredibly nice, and incredibly rare, but it is a C-code (non ram-air) car with green interior (sorry Mickey, you know I love you, but I have to think you'd prefer a black interior in that car. I just respect you for not changing it!).



Did I miss where it said it was never repainted or 100% concourse? Granted I learned something new but still...
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Agree, the seller isn't claiming it's the original paint or concourse, he's not even claiming it's rust free (in fact the pic of the trunk appears to show serious rust covered over in the left lower corner of the pic plus no pics of the undercarriage) The seller appears to be basing the price on the rarity of the car, a 1 of 1.

Jim

Hi, Jim. If it's what I think you're talking about with the trunk pic, that's NOT rust repair. That's the messy globs of factory seam sealer. You want to see that! I owned a 1973 convertible with 90 original miles. Before I sold the car, I got it up on jack stands and took over 500 pictures to verify things like that seam sealer and factory paint marks, etc. so I could use that information when building a concourse car. In response to others' points regarding the red insides of the quarter panels, it's just a little over restored. And regarding the gloss black hood, yes, it is not correct but it will last a lot longer. The matte black hood patches fade fast with no uv protection.
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Hi, Jim. If it's what I think you're talking about with the trunk pic, that's NOT rust repair. That's the messy globs of factory seam sealer. You want to see that! I owned a 1973 convertible with 90 original miles. Before I sold the car, I got it up on jack stands and took over 500 pictures to verify things like that seam sealer and factory paint marks, etc. so I could use that information when building a concourse car. In response to others' points regarding the red insides of the quarter panels, it's just a little over restored. And regarding the gloss black hood, yes, it is not correct but it will last a lot longer. The matte black hood patches fade fast with no uv protection.
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Point taken on the seam sealer, I wasn't aware they globbed in on like that at the factory. It's a beautiful car and like you said, it's the rarity of the car that is driving the price on this one. It think the point some were trying to make is that since it's obviously not the original paint, a little better prep and more pictures might be in order if he's going to start the bidding at 75K. I don't think anyone was bashing the car itself, it's a one of a kind.

Jim

 
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"But drill holes in the factory deck lid that came with the car to put on a rear spoiler? THAT'S SACRILIGE!"

Got to agree big time on that. This is extremely rare and highly sought-after Mustang.

It is very much an investment grade car. Yes, it needs some detail work to make it ultra nice but it is still very nice.

In my opinion, this car as it sits today, if a BUY IT NOW of $40k was available, the auction would have already been over.

But as long as the car is kept VERY close to original - it will appreciate well in value. It is difficult to think of any other 71-3 Mustangs more desirable - other than the James Bond 71 Mach 1 (maybe plural lol).

I'm surprised Mickey isn't looking to get this one too. Mickey and his friend Bobby Speedale have been scouring the earth for these cars since the late 70's. I'd almost be they know where all of them are located!

Ray

 
'71 429cj ? Id rather buy a '71 BOSS 351. Faster and better handling car...and much cooler. The 1970 BOSS 429 was the big money collector car, the BOSS 351 was the big performance car.

 
Hi, Jim. If it's what I think you're talking about with the trunk pic, that's NOT rust repair. That's the messy globs of factory seam sealer. You want to see that! I owned a 1973 convertible with 90 original miles. Before I sold the car, I got it up on jack stands and took over 500 pictures to verify things like that seam sealer and factory paint marks, etc. so I could use that information when building a concourse car. In response to others' points regarding the red insides of the quarter panels, it's just a little over restored. And regarding the gloss black hood, yes, it is not correct but it will last a lot longer. The matte black hood patches fade fast with no uv protection.

Hi, Jim. I do agree with those points. At this price, the seller would seem to know what he has. But I have to say, his presentation is that of a novice. I could do a MUCH better job selling this car. But I still don't think I'd be able to get more than 75K in this market.
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Point taken on the seam sealer, I wasn't aware they globbed in on like that at the factory. It's a beautiful car and like you said, it's the rarity of the car that is driving the price on this one. It think the point some were trying to make is that since it's obviously not the original paint, a little better prep and more pictures might be in order if he's going to start the bidding at 75K. I don't think anyone was bashing the car itself, it's a one of a kind.

Jim

 

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