engine find

[03cobra33]

can anyone tell me what this engine is? I believe from the research I have done that its a 72 351c-cj or 351c HO anyone have any ideas?

Block reads

d2ae ca

2l18

 

[c9zx]

November 18, 1972 casting date. It is a 1973 model year engine block. Any other details. Chuck

 

[Manu Mach1]

Hello,

It can be a CJ, HO, (or even H code I guess?).

Can have 2 or 4 main bolts, to be sure you need to remove the oil pan to check that.

From 1972.

 

[Boss1Ray]

As Chuck mentioned, more details are needed! Because of the date, most likely not an HO.

I'd say if 4 bolt mains - 73 Q code block, if 2 bolt mains - 73 H code block.

Ray

 

[Don C]

The information I came up with shows that it was used for CJs and has 4-bolt mains.

http://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-casting-numbers-and-engine-codes

If you can verify the number of bolts on the mains I would appreciate it. The information I used came from different publications and websites, and I try to update the information whenever possible and can be verified.

Thanks,

Don

 

[03cobra33]

it is a 4 bolt main. and i believe its has solid lifters i have to take intake off to confirm.


here are some pics.

 

[Jeff73Mach1]

it is a 4 bolt main. and i believe its has solid lifters i have to take intake off to confirm.

Nope, just a valve cover. If it has solid lifters it will have an adjustable valve train. Hydraulic lifter can too, but typically do not.

Pushing down on a pushrod will help you tell whether the lifter is solid or hydraulic, if the engine has had oil pressure recently.

 

[03cobra33]

i pushed on the push rod and i got noting it should not have oil presser still.

 

[basstrix]

i pushed on the push rod and i got noting it should not have oil presser still.

You have to make sure you're not pushing on one that's opening a valve....

 

[03cobra33]

here is the lifters solid.

 

[basstrix]

Based on the top picture in post #6, it has to be a hydraulic lifter...you have pedestal mount rocker arms. Solid lifters require screw in studs and guide plates. There are other means to accommodate solid lifter, but not offered by ford on a cleveland. Don't think ford offered a solid lifter engine in 73 either...but the experts here could tell you for sure.

Sorry, if I'd of seen that picture yesterday I could have saved you the trouble of pulling the intake.

 

[03cobra33]

Sorry yes they are hydraulic lifters. so that means its one of theses? can we pin point which one?

Q 351 CJ (much less common)

The May 1971 / - 1972 Q-code Version (351-Cobra Jet, 266 HP) was a low-compression 4V variant employing a cast-iron intake manifold (with telltale spread-bore carburetor flange), special camshaft, hydraulic lifters, dual-point distributor, 4-bolt main caps. A small number of late 1971 351C-4V engines were actually low-compression 351-CJ engines, and were equipped with an aluminum intake manifold.

Q 351 CJ (much less common)

The 1973 & 1974 Q-code Version (351-Cobra-Jet, 246 HP) was essentially the same as the 1972 351CJ though with two important differences: Camshaft timing was retarded by four degrees; cylinder heads- though still with large 4V ports - were fitted with smaller valves (2.04" Intake / 1.65" Exhaust), same as used in 351C-2V.

 

[basstrix]

You can use a mirror to read the casting numbers on the heads. There are 2 ID's you're looking for....one is the 4 digit EG: D1AE. This one is in a smaller font and located on underside of one of the inner ports. The other is a 1 or 2 digit ID in a larger font on undersid of the other inner port. This will be something like N or GA, etc... This along with date code should help determine which of the above you have.

 

[03cobra33]

i think these are what you were talking about


wait or are yopu taking about the images in my first post

 

[basstrix]

No, they are on the underside of head beneath intake ports.

 

[barnett468]

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ummm, you have a cylinder head that does not exist . . it is a late 1972 date code so it is for a 73 . . the 4 on the corner means 4 barrel . . the DOAE on the bottom means 1970 and it has closed cambers . . That other thing is an N which was on 1970 heads only . . Your head in the last photo is a DOAE-N.

the head in the first photo is a 1973 open chamber 4 barrel head.

the head in the last photo is a 1970 closed chamber 4 barrel head.

this head does not exist.

This is it.

 

[basstrix]

I put that picture up to show him where to look for the casting numbers.

 

[barnett468]

I put that picture up to show him where to look for the casting numbers.

lol, ok that makes sense now . . unless his heads are DIZE they will be 73 open chamber likely small valve ones

 

[Jeff73Mach1]

I was under the impression that some 73 heads still had the large valves. Mine did, but I don't know if it had been altered. Date codes were clearly for a 73 though and the valves were ford parts. Of course in 35 years, who knows what was done