fire extinguisher related

[SteveO_71]

Anyone seen this type of extinguisher or use one? Just wondering how good or bad.

Element extinguisher

 

[7173Vert]

Anyone seen this type of extinguisher or use one? Just wondering how good or bad.

Element extinguisher

As a former Municipal Fire Inspector and a Former Underwriter's Laboratories employee (Fire and Security Equipment Test Technician and a Field Inspector); these are not certified for use in North America as of yet. Personally, not for me... In unregulated environments (ie. UL standards, local Codes. etc do not apply), a person can do as they please with these... Personal choice at the end of the day...

 

[EBSTANG]

I have one in all my cars and one in my kitchen. I think they work and don't care if they're UL listed "yet." Is the UL agency gonna come help you when your normal extinguisher shoots it's load in 12 seconds and you're standing there holding an empty canister?

It was featured on Leno's Garage and he's no idiot.

Also, the element extinguishers, as you've probably already researched, won't cover your entire engine bay in chemicals.

 

[73pony]

I also have them in all of my vehicles. I did only purchase one to start and wanted to test for my self. Started a couple of wooden pallets on fire that I tossed some used motor oil on with a touch of gas to get them going. Waited until they got good and hot. It put them out no problem and quickly. The only thing I will say is that you had to get a little closer than I would like but they work great regardless.

 

[Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs]

Long ago outlawed was the Freon fire extinguishers. I use to get them at Western Auto were like an aerosol can. Would fit in glove box. You could throw out a pint of gas light it and one pass put it out. 

All the car shows here require an extinguisher with each car some want it beside the L.F. wheel.

 

[goodnigh]

I have a couple of Halotron units.

Once had to use a dry chemical system.

Made a huge mess, but put out the fire.

mike

 

[7173Vert]

I have one in all my cars and one in my kitchen. I think they work and don't care if they're UL listed "yet." Is the UL agency gonna come help you when your normal extinguisher shoots it's load in 12 seconds and you're standing there holding an empty canister?

It was featured on Leno's Garage and he's no idiot.

Also, the element extinguishers, as you've probably already researched, won't cover your entire engine bay in chemicals.

That’s funny, Jay Leno approved... Well, I’m not an idiot either and I can attest to uncertified fire safety devices causing million’s in damages when they failed to deliver  as advertised. I’m well aware of the makeup of all fire extinguisher’s, that is not what I was referencing. There is a very compelling reason why countries such as the USA and Canada have required certification of everyday devices used in our live’s. BTW, it is not UL’s job to come and help you when you shoot your load in 12 second’s... It’s your responsibility to prevent a fire from occurring in the first place. Should one start, you want the most effective, thoroughly tested and properly assembled fire extinguisher in your hand’s at that moment.... Minimum certification requirements are not meant to stop a mfr from selling their product in the market, they are implemented to provide a measure of confidence to the consumer. This particular extinguisher mfr should approach the required North American certification agency's and have a Standard developed for their product and then meet the minimum requirements like all the other good mfr’s out there. Lower standard’s? Be careful what you wish for. Good luck with your fire extinguisher.

 

[EBSTANG]

I have one in all my cars and one in my kitchen. I think they work and don't care if they're UL listed "yet." Is the UL agency gonna come help you when your normal extinguisher shoots it's load in 12 seconds and you're standing there holding an empty canister?

It was featured on Leno's Garage and he's no idiot.

Also, the element extinguishers, as you've probably already researched, won't cover your entire engine bay in chemicals.

That’s funny, Jay Leno approved... Well, I’m not an idiot either and I can attest to uncertified fire safety devices causing million’s in damages when they failed to deliver  as advertised. I’m well aware of the makeup of all fire extinguisher’s, that is not what I was referencing. There is a very compelling reason why countries such as the USA and Canada have required certification of everyday devices used in our live’s. BTW, it is not UL’s job to come and help you when you shoot your load in 12 second’s... It’s your responsibility to prevent a fire from occurring in the first place. Should one start, you want the most effective, thoroughly tested and properly assembled fire extinguisher in your hand’s at that moment.... Minimum certification requirements are not meant to stop a mfr from selling their product in the market, they are implemented to provide a measure of confidence to the consumer. This particular extinguisher mfr should approach the required North American certification agency's and have a Standard developed for their product and then meet the minimum requirements like all the other good mfr’s out there. Lower standard’s? Be careful what you wish for. Good luck with your fire extinguisher.

You're funny. I did not say it was Jay Leno approved. It was featured on his show, without his endorsement. Some of us appreciate seeing new products for ourselves and deducing whether or not it seems to make sense and whether or not we would like to have it in our arsenal without or prior to a Federal Agency deciding for us. I would expect that an inspector past/present would have an opinion like yours...as I deal with many "inspectors." Testing and regulation is good but also keeps/slows down some really good products from reaching the market. They work and I personally wouldn't need some blowhard to tell me so.

 

[Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs]

Hey guys take a deep breath and let's get back to cars, lol. BTW I just bought another Mustang. Don't need it just saving from an idiot. 

When I am doing anything on my car I have fire extinguisher there but also keep 5 gallon bucket of water handy. When we go camping we keep couple buckets of water sitting around. I would hate to fire off a dry chem. extinguisher in my car water is ok sometimes. 

We all have opinions and will always be many different ones. 

I use to work for Square D and also Cutler Hammer. When we came out with new products and built the tooling we could not engrave the UL or Canada approvals in the molds until they were tested. One of the product engineers told me it was sort of a joke. That they could get any product approved for some sort of use. Like indoors, no dust, etc. Then you have some that explosive proof, water proof etc. There are many different levels of approvals they are not all equal and never will be. 

One our switches was approved for use in nuclear reactor control rooms. If I recall everything is like triple back ups. One of our contact blocks failed and boy did that blow up in a hurry. The engineers from the reactor flew in brought the contact block and switch with them. We X-ray the contact block before we took apart. A piece of plastic flash from the thermoses plastic contact block housing had got between the silver contacts and prevented the circuit from closing. So we got to keep our contract.