Even though the car was used as part of a scam this time, that was a good catch on the rear seat interior panels. The Fast Lane site says the restore was done in he mid to late 1990's, so I guess their best shot was a set of the '73 panels. If someone wanted to get fancy they could have cut small patches from a bad donor panel and affixed them in some manner prior to spraying the panels. Awesome car though- wish the true owner would step forward and join the site if they are even aware of it.
Thanks Jim. I'll keep everyone posted on the progress with Ebay insurance. Looking good so far. Thank God I insisted the guy do the transaction through Ebay. If I had bought the car outside of Ebay or on Craigslist there would be zero chance of getting my money back.
I'm intrigued by the bogus Washington State document as the title evidence. Surely rates up there with counterfeit passports & fake driver's licences.
Thanks Jeff!
Yes. He sent a photo shopped picture of the real VIN plate photo that was listed in the Fastlane Classic Cars ad from a few years ago. I could not tell it was photo shopped but others like Kevin Marti saw it right away. All he did was change the last number of the VIN in the photo. The kicker for me was that he communicated with me by phone and all emails with the name "Arlem Jonas", he provided me a picture of a Washington state title with HIS name and address on it, and he had me wire the funds into a bank account with HIS name and address on it! I felt for sure he was the legitimate owner of the car. The funny thing is that the scam was only picked up when I forwarded the photos he had presented to me to the 7173mustang website, and then the photo shopping was picked up. If he had simply used the identical ad and photos from Fastlane with an unaltered VIN, he probably would have gotten away with it. I really don't get the whole idea of changing the VIN in the pictures. I notice these guys never put the VIN number of the car they are supposedly selling in the ad. I guess they are trying to prevent a perspective buyer from Googling the VIN number and finding other info about the car or seeing the ad they pirated. But I actually found the Fastlane ad BEFORE I wired him the money. He told me from the beginning that he had bought the car three years ago as an investment for $70,000. He had "family issues" and needed the money. He would sell it for $25K. I thought maybe there were some issues with the car and maybe it was never worth $70K to begin with. So maybe the car was only really worth $45K on the open market. And because he was in a jam, he might not have had the time to wait for the $45K price, so he was willing to do a "fire sale" and give it away at $25K. For a comparison of the real and altered photos, look at some of the earlier replies to this thread. You will see the one's I forwarded from the "sellers" emails and you can compare them to the ones in the "Fastllane" ad posted by Donkost. Here is a picture of the VIN plate he sent me.
And here's another thing. Where the heck is input from the owner of the REAL car, VIN 1F05J173074?? You would think anyone owning a car like that would be connected to all the favorite sites for 71-73 Mustang owners.Yes. He sent a photo shopped picture of the real VIN plate photo that was listed in the Fastlane Classic Cars ad from a few years ago. I could not tell it was photo shopped but others like Kevin Marti saw it right away. All he did was change the last number of the VIN in the photo. The kicker for me was that he communicated with me by phone and all emails with the name "Arlem Jonas", he provided me a picture of a Washington state title with HIS name and address on it, and he had me wire the funds into a bank account with HIS name and address on it! I felt for sure he was the legitimate owner of the car. The funny thing is that the scam was only picked up when I forwarded the photos he had presented to me to the 7173mustang website, and then the photo shopping was picked up. If he had simply used the identical ad and photos from Fastlane with an unaltered VIN, he probably would have gotten away with it. I really don't get the whole idea of changing the VIN in the pictures. I notice these guys never put the VIN number of the car they are supposedly selling in the ad. I guess they are trying to prevent a perspective buyer from Googling the VIN number and finding other info about the car or seeing the ad they pirated. But I actually found the Fastlane ad BEFORE I wired him the money. He told me from the beginning that he had bought the car three years ago as an investment for $70,000. He had "family issues" and needed the money. He would sell it for $25K. I thought maybe there were some issues with the car and maybe it was never worth $70K to begin with. So maybe the car was only really worth $45K on the open market. And because he was in a jam, he might not have had the time to wait for the $45K price, so he was willing to do a "fire sale" and give it away at $25K. For a comparison of the real and altered photos, look at some of the earlier replies to this thread. You will see the one's I forwarded from the "sellers" emails and you can compare them to the ones in the "Fastllane" ad posted by Donkost. Here is a picture of the VIN plate he sent me.
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Good info David.
Sorry. I think I'll hold on to it for now.
