BOSS 429 for sale

[goodnigh]

Was looking at the pictures of this car for sale and came across this one.

Is there something wrong with this weld?

mike

 

[Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs]

Don't think so. It is common to spot weld the front frame parts in place then add some TIG welds for a little extra strength.

The Boss 9 cars were not meant to be performance in straight line and for sure not on a road course like the Boss 302. They were built for one reason. It was the cheapest body Ford could alter to make the Boss 429 fit in to meet the NASCAR requirement to be a production engine. Ford did build 3 or 4 Boss 9 cars to show up at the drag strip but nothing like the production cars.

When they did full track cars or drag cars they delete all the sealers so that the seams can be TIG or MIG welded to gain strength.

I have an article stashed somewhere on the alter Boss 9 cars. All four shocks were different to help it launch better and H&M built the engines not line built. Even the rear slats on the back window were brass to add weight where it was best needed, not aluminum. They were ringers like all the magazine and test cars of the day.

If you had been around during the gas crisis of 74 75 you could pick them up for hundreds of dollars. Any BB car of any make was that way. Everyone thought the supply of gas was ending. They even started selling 2 stroke vehicles with motorcycle engines in them.

I just find it amazing how some people think they are so great when actually were not great for anything except to carry Boss 9 engines down the assembly line.

 

[c9zx]

My 1969 Cougar Eliminator has welds exactly like that, if that means anything. Chuck

 

[NOT A T5]

And yet, nothing has changed since automobiles getting bigger and heavier looking at SUV's, Trucks and the like. I think all gas crisis"s were spoofs!  lollerz

 

[goodnigh]

Don't think so. It is common to spot weld the front frame parts in place then add some TIG welds for a little extra strength.

The Boss 9 cars were not meant to be performance in straight line and for sure not on a road course like the Boss 302. They were built for one reason. It was the cheapest body Ford could alter to make the Boss 429 fit in to meet the NASCAR requirement to be a production engine. Ford did build 3 or 4 Boss 9 cars to show up at the drag strip but nothing like the production cars.

When they did full track cars or drag cars they delete all the sealers so that the seams can be TIG or MIG welded to gain strength.

I have an article stashed somewhere on the alter Boss 9 cars. All four shocks were different to help it launch better and H&M built the engines not line built. Even the rear slats on the back window were brass to add weight where it was best needed, not aluminum. They were ringers like all the magazine and test cars of the day.

If you had been around during the gas crisis of 74 75 you could pick them up for hundreds of dollars. Any BB car of any make was that way. Everyone thought the supply of gas was ending. They even started selling 2 stroke vehicles with motorcycle engines in them.

I just find it amazing how some people think they are so great when actually were not great for anything except to carry Boss 9 engines down the assembly line.

It looked like the spot welds have separated.

only want $222 for it.

mike

 

[mjlan]

I'm guessing that the stitch welds on the end of the strut rod brackets were added to increase the strength of that joint, whether all Mustangs and Cougars got them who knows, it could have been only special performance models, or cars with Comp Suspension.

Something like this is pretty normal, kind of like how the lower shock tower reinforcement plates went from use only on BB cars and Bosses to all cars by the end of the 70 model year.

I think there were weld changes to the 71 front unibody during development due to spot weld failures- it was easier or quicker to go back over these joints with a separate welding operation in the body shop at the plant than it was to add more spot welds...

My guess only...

 

[donkost]

And yet, nothing has changed since automobiles getting bigger and heavier looking at SUV's, Trucks and the like. I think all gas crisis"s were spoofs!  lollerz

You're right, they were spoofs.  Opec altered production in order to create a fake crisis.  Back in the days before the internet and instant access to information, many people believed we were running out of gas.  I remember it quite well, only being able to get gas based on the even or odd number on your license plate, lines going around the block at gas stations.  I recall my dad saying he didn't know what we'd do if gas hit 50 cents per gallon.  lol  He was so spooked by the gas crisis that he went from a two year old Chevy Caprice Classic with 400 V8 (black exterior, maroon cloth interior, purchased new) to a new Chevy Vega GT Wagon with 4 cylinder and automatic trans (yuk).  Our next door neighbor was a long-time Chevy salesman so they bought their cars through him back then.  The Caprice got 10 mpg and the Vega almost got that low as well because it never ran right.  Your foot had to be to the floor to get any kind of performance out of it.  I remember we took a vacation to Niagara Falls and Montreal Quebec back then, and in upstate NY that car would lose speed going uphill with his foot to the floor.  You're right that not much has changed.  My wife has a big, heavy Lincoln Navigator L with the 5.4L V8, 310 HP, 3.73 rear and 6 speed automatic.  That thing is a pleasure to drive and gets around 12 mpg city.  Not much better than the old days!

 

[donkost]

Don't think so. It is common to spot weld the front frame parts in place then add some TIG welds for a little extra strength.

The Boss 9 cars were not meant to be performance in straight line and for sure not on a road course like the Boss 302. They were built for one reason. It was the cheapest body Ford could alter to make the Boss 429 fit in to meet the NASCAR requirement to be a production engine. Ford did build 3 or 4 Boss 9 cars to show up at the drag strip but nothing like the production cars.

When they did full track cars or drag cars they delete all the sealers so that the seams can be TIG or MIG welded to gain strength.

I have an article stashed somewhere on the alter Boss 9 cars. All four shocks were different to help it launch better and H&M built the engines not line built. Even the rear slats on the back window were brass to add weight where it was best needed, not aluminum. They were ringers like all the magazine and test cars of the day.

If you had been around during the gas crisis of 74 75 you could pick them up for hundreds of dollars. Any BB car of any make was that way. Everyone thought the supply of gas was ending. They even started selling 2 stroke vehicles with motorcycle engines in them.

I just find it amazing how some people think they are so great when actually were not great for anything except to carry Boss 9 engines down the assembly line.

It looked like the spot welds have separated.

only want $222 for it.

mike

For $222 I hope you already have it in your garage!  I know what you meant, $222K, just kidding around...