Up grading to a AODE/4R70W

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1973 Mustang Convertable
Like your automatic trans, yet want overdrive?? Overdrive allows you to drop the rear end gearing, yet still have lower RPM @ highway speeds. As I have already done this swap on my 65 2+2. I knew this is one of the first mods to do to the our 73 Convertible. This past weekend we finished the C-4 to 4R70W swap in the 73. (All part of taking it on a 5000 mile vacation trip. Florida Panhandle to Kalispell, MT. and return)

The AOD has always been the choice, yet using the last of the AOD trans family, an AODE/4R70W is even better. The AODE/4R70W's have all the AOD's weaknesses & flaws worked out of them and with little prep can easily handle 450+ HP engines. The W's wide ratio gear set is another bonus.

Best of those is a 4R70W from a V-6 1998-2003. The V-6's from those years have the same Windsor bell housing bolt pattern as the 289/302/5.0/351 Windsor V-8's. The newer OHC Mod-motors have their own bolt pattern.

When converting my 65 2+2, I found that the 4R70W's larger diameter tubed yoke w/ harmonic balancer, has clearance issues in the trans tunnel. The tailshaft housing can be easily swapped for an earlier AOD short tailshaft housing, then use a AOD or even better T-5 yoke(stronger).

The major difference between the early AOD's and later AODE/4R70W's, is the latter uses a computer to control the shifts. Though several companies make controllers, IMHO Baumann Electronic Controls makes the best http://www.becontrols.com/

The swap is almost a bolt in (Ok well sorta bolt in), except for Trans mount, shift linkage and using a shorter drive shaft. I re-used my 65's shorter DS, for a perfect fit, modified a 2001 Mustang shifter & cable, and built my own trans mount. Glen Buzek of Rosehill Performance http://www.rosehillperformanceparts.com/ makes T-5 conversion mounts and sent me two sets of prebent tubing and mounting flanges. One was for my mount the other duplicate was returned to Glen as a Prototype Mount for other folks. Glen will be making these mounts available.

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how was the aode i did a aod non electronic in mine, but i had it worked through and through so all new parts, kevlar band clutches, whole kit and kabootle built it to hold 600 as for block puts out 500+. As for Turbo mine is a 351c but an aod will bold right up to any ford sb 302 351w/c and 289, not shure about fbb though?

 
Cool swap, I did mine last year. Best upgrade I have done.
What engine do you have and what gears are you using??

Also curious bout what mileage you are getting, Hehheh with a 5000 milw trip ahead.

4.10 gears and a 4000 rpm stall converter. I went with a manual valvebody and 2 toggle switches one to lock up the converter whenever I want and the other to shift into overdrive.

here is an old post I did

http://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-fmx-to-4r70w-swap

 
Cool swap, I did mine last year. Best upgrade I have done.
What engine do you have and what gears are you using??

Also curious bout what mileage you are getting, Hehheh with a 5000 milw trip ahead.

4.10 gears and a 4000 rpm stall converter. I went with a manual valvebody and 2 toggle switches one to lock up the converter whenever I want and the other to shift into overdrive.

here is an old post I did

http://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-fmx-to-4r70w-swap
Just currious where did you buy your torque converter? You said you modified you factory shift rod and made it work?I am about to make the plunge.I am looking for a trans now.

 
You can use either the Exploder V-8 stock torque converter, a stock V-6 converter(higher stall, though doesnt take abuse as well) or an aftermarket. I had SunCoast Converters modify my stock V-8 converter, on the 2+2. The 73 is currently using a V-6 converter.

 
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