164 tooth flywheel

[Studdley]

Would like to get a manual flywheel for my toploader conversion, but most online are pretty expensive, would like to get one for under 100, lmk what you got

 

[73pony]

If you are running a Cleveland make sure you get a28 oz imbalance.

 

[Jeff73Mach1]

They are very heavy to ship and a bit oversized. Where are you located?

 

[Studdley]

They are very heavy to ship and a bit oversized.  Where are you located?

Southern ohio

 

[Studdley]

If you are running a Cleveland make sure you get a28 oz imbalance.

Same thing with the windsors till '81

 

[Jeff73Mach1]

I'd Call Don at Ohio Mustang.

 

[Studdley]

I'd Call Don at Ohio Mustang.

I did twice and no one answered, so strange though, every time I do a parts search for the 73 mustang it comes up with the 157 tooth flywheel

 

[Hemikiller]

157t is for a 302. They ran a 10" clutch, which isn't sufficient for a healthy 351.

 

[73pony]

157t is for a 302. They ran a 10" clutch, which isn't sufficient for a healthy 351.

True, but he needs to determine what bell housing he has first to determine what flywheel he needs. Being as he is putting in a 3 speed from a 68 (I believe) mustang and has a bell housing from I think a 72 so it could be either one.

 

[Studdley]

157t is for a 302. They ran a 10" clutch, which isn't sufficient for a healthy 351.

True, but he needs to determine what bell housing he has first to determine what flywheel he needs. Being as he is putting in a 3 speed from a 68 (I believe) mustang and has a bell housing from I think a 72 so it could be either one.

I measured and the bell is for a 164 toother, I found one for a 1978 f150 5.0, are car and truck flys different?

 

[Don C]

Yes, usually, as the transmissions are different, different length input shafts, different bolt patterns.

 

[Don C]

Another item I just thought of, is the pilot bearing. Make sure it fits the input shaft on your transmission before you install it in the crankshaft.

 

[Studdley]

Another item I just thought of, is the pilot bearing. Make sure it fits the input shaft on your transmission before you install it in the crankshaft.

Dont most clutch kits come with one?

 

[73pony]

Here is a new one for under $100 from Jegs...

164 tooth 28 oz external balance.

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/601350/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710617392&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=39714413703&CATCI=pla-484224304472&CATARGETID=230006180039220951&cadevice=c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7eeE8-fp2gIVgh5pCh1WgQAEEAQYBCABEgL1U_D_BwE

 

[Hemikiller]

157t is for a 302. They ran a 10" clutch, which isn't sufficient for a healthy 351.

True, but he needs to determine what bell housing he has first to determine what flywheel he needs. Being as he is putting in a 3 speed from a 68 (I believe) mustang and has a bell housing from I think a 72 so it could be either one.

I measured and the bell is for a 164 toother, I found one for a 1978 f150 5.0, are car and truck flys different?

Yes and no.

The 78-up F-150 used a diaphragm clutch, while the early Mustangs up through '73 use a Long style. Not sure if the 78-up flywheel will have the Long pressure plate bolt pattern on it. 

77 and earlier trucks used a long style clutch and that flywheel was the interchange and/or service part from Ford (D7TZ-6375-C). This was also used in 77-earlier Bronco 302 trucks. 

Rock auto has the Exedy FWFM116 listed under the 70 Mercury Cougar 302 (which never existed, as they all came with a 351 or larger), which will work in the 71-73 Mustangs. $100 for a new 164T flywheel isn't terrible. 

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercury,1970,cougar,5.8l+351cid+v8,1197738,transmission-manual,flywheel,5348

 

[Don C]

Yes, if you're going to get a clutch kit it will likely come with an assortment of pilot bearings, just make sure the right one came with it.

 

[Studdley]

True, but he needs to determine what bell housing he has first to determine what flywheel he needs. Being as he is putting in a 3 speed from a 68 (I believe) mustang and has a bell housing from I think a 72 so it could be either one.

I measured and the bell is for a 164 toother, I found one for a 1978 f150 5.0, are car and truck flys different?

Yes and no.

The 78-up F-150 used a diaphragm clutch, while the early Mustangs up through '73 use a Long style. Not sure if the 78-up flywheel will have the Long pressure plate bolt pattern on it. 

77 and earlier trucks used a long style clutch and that flywheel was the interchange and/or service part from Ford (D7TZ-6375-C). This was also used in 77-earlier Bronco 302 trucks. 

Rock auto has the Exedy FWFM116 listed under the 70 Mercury Cougar 302 (which never existed, as they all came with a 351 or larger), which will work in the 71-73 Mustangs. $100 for a new 164T flywheel isn't terrible. 

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercury,1970,cougar,5.8l+351cid+v8,1197738,transmission-manual,flywheel,5348

I was looking at this one https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1523674&cc=1120790&jsn=10600, does anything wrong stand out?

 

[Studdley]

Here is a new one for under $100 from Jegs...

164 tooth 28 oz external balance.

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/601350/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710617392&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=39714413703&CATCI=pla-484224304472&CATARGETID=230006180039220951&cadevice=c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7eeE8-fp2gIVgh5pCh1WgQAEEAQYBCABEgL1U_D_BwE

Anything wrong with this one https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1523674&cc=1120790&jsn=10600 ?

 

[73pony]

Here is a new one for under $100 from Jegs...

164 tooth 28 oz external balance.

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/601350/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710617392&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=39714413703&CATCI=pla-484224304472&CATARGETID=230006180039220951&cadevice=c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7eeE8-fp2gIVgh5pCh1WgQAEEAQYBCABEgL1U_D_BwE

Anything wrong with this one https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1523674&cc=1120790&jsn=10600 ?

It doesn't say anywhere what the balance weight is on it.