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Sunny but far too cold to try and warm the garage. Thinking of spending the day thinking of ways I can create more work to be performed on the Mustang. If productivity is defined by being productive at adding more to try and be even more productive, then I aced it.

And now a short and entertaining break.

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The new disty arrived today, Now’s the comment I sincerely find want to post, it would appear that Pertronix QC is not what I can’t say for certain ever was. This is only my second vehicle with their product and the first was a conversion back in 2016 and that was problematic from the start so u opted for an HEI type after that.
Meanwhile, out at the outhouse things were piling up.
The me disty is almost an inch and a half taller that the first replacement do not even a Windsor fitment .
Let them know it was wrong and I’d just keep the previous disty and work thru it here myself. Am awaiting the response to return things.
I’ve got an old Accel Cleveland DP disty hiding somewhere. I purchased in 1980 so, last I had it in my hands was when I was going to install it in my Cougar in 1983 but never did. it ended up in a box in my parents attic when I moved. They took it with them to Tucson and I had forgotten about it until we took the box in 2019 when they moved to Denver. We brought it to SC at that time so it may be in one we took to an offsite storage here but I’m running out of boxes to check. I doubt it’s anywhere but missing or it may be one of the boxes we’ve lost since SC. At any rate, it’s back to the drawing board.
 
By the way, the video, that was me after receiving my new peddle bracket. Just as bald and glasses to boot but, haven't been able to move near like that for 40 years.

So? Distributors. Arrggghhhh!!!!!
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Left side, the new arrival
Right side, the replacement that arrived in November
Middle, my stock points Auto Lite.
For what it's worth, I sent both disty packing and going to look at something else.

While this is not intended to sound judgmental to anyone who's altered their ram-air breather housing, it's not my can 'o' beer. It took a great deal to put his back together and might as well work with what I have available.

That said, I'm looking into what can be performed on the stock OE unit I have. The last Pertronix conversion I had was on a 300 in-line 6 and it needed to be swapped for a HEI conversion that was far superior.

Knowing the HEI won't work for me leaves me with converting the Auto-Lite or finding something else. That Dual Point Accel I mentioned above is probably sitting in some Moving company warehouse between here and South Carolina or maybe elsewhere. If it was "liberated" from when we stored our move, then I hope that person put it to good use. I'll look at it like that person needed it more than me, especially since I hadn't purchased this Mustang yet. LOL.
 
By the way, the video, that was me after receiving my new peddle bracket. Just as bald and glasses to boot but, haven't been able to move near like that for 40 years.

So? Distributors. Arrggghhhh!!!!!
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Left side, the new arrival
Right side, the replacement that arrived in November
Middle, my stock points Auto Lite.
For what it's worth, I sent both disty packing and going to look at something else.

While this is not intended to sound judgmental to anyone who's altered their ram-air breather housing, it's not my can 'o' beer. It took a great deal to put his back together and might as well work with what I have available.

That said, I'm looking into what can be performed on the stock OE unit I have. The last Pertronix conversion I had was on a 300 in-line 6 and it needed to be swapped for a HEI conversion that was far superior.

Knowing the HEI won't work for me leaves me with converting the Auto-Lite or finding something else. That Dual Point Accel I mentioned above is probably sitting in some Moving company warehouse between here and South Carolina or maybe elsewhere. If it was "liberated" from when we stored our move, then I hope that person put it to good use. I'll look at it like that person needed it more than me, especially since I hadn't purchased this Mustang yet. LOL.
My engine builder installed an MSD which I told him would not work with the ram-air air cleaner but he was "sure" it would. After I installed the engine and confirmed there was no way it would work, I swapped in the Pertronix "stock look" Flame Thrower. The air cleaner fit with the Pertronix distributor and I haven't had any issue with it as of yet, but I only have 500 miles on it so far.
 

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Not to complicate any reply, well at least too much, the Pertronix distributor I purchased from Summit in 2022 was the very distributor, part number included, mentioned in a post by tpj71mach back then. So, while I no longer have a pic of it uninstalled, it was correct.

In the picture below, again;
The stock 351C disty is in the center.
The November replacement,, is on the right.
The January 2025 replacement, marketed and numbered as the stock profile by Pertronix, is on the left.

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Whatever the process, the problem, the people or manufacturer involved, the item they are selling is not the stock height nor will fit under the ram-air breather housing.

My opinion, for whatever that's worth, Pertronix is simply producing a 351W profile and changing the camshaft drive gear to meet the specified difference between the Cleveland and Windsor motors.
 
IMO, I'd use the factory distributor and recurve it to match your engine. If you need it rebuilt, talk to Dan at the Mustang Barn in PA. He does rebuilds, recurves and can install a steel gear if needed. FWIW, I'm taking the HEI out of our 71 Cougar and putting a points unit back in. Don't feel like messing around with the wiring to make the stock tach play nice with it.
 
IMO, I'd use the factory distributor and recurve it to match your engine. If you need it rebuilt, talk to Dan at the Mustang Barn in PA. He does rebuilds, recurves and can install a steel gear if needed. FWIW, I'm taking the HEI out of our 71 Cougar and putting a points unit back in. Don't feel like messing around with the wiring to make the stock tach play nice with it.
Greatly appreciate the feedback. After all the back and forth over this, I thought about using the original disty but didn’t consider recurving it.
Seems appropriate or par for the course just to take the extra time and steps to make certain it’s done correctly.
The original “refresh “ was a nice thought but I somehow always felt like more was needed.
Thanks!
 
So, we have the distributor issue, re-re-re-resolved, with a little help here. Although, I did have a credit and decided to pick up the PerTronix III conversion and coil. I do like the idea that Hemikiller suggested and that's going to be the approach, just need to contact Mustang Barn and talk horses. The decision to just get the conversion is based solely on the empty-pockets theory of economics. We've arrived at that doorstep since the "rob from Peter to pay Paul" theory has run its course. More on how we arrive at the prior to follow.

The ongoing saga of the motor, this is the "to follow" point.

The original idea of a refresh that I spoke of wat back when in the thread was really the most appealing path given my experiences decades ago. Fate had another idea all together and so here we are.
Not going to recap all of the step that put us on this spot but what has finally started to come together.
The block is awaiting pistons for the bore and they just arrived yesterday and pictured below. It is a beautiful sight, at least I think so. Just thinking of the beautiful sound, it won't make while I'm waiting to find the motor mounts, or the parts available to make it work, but that's a different conundrum.

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So, we solved the connecting rods issue. This started with the desire to go with floating wrist pins. It's really the best, overall choice for the goals. Anyhow, the rods came down to economics first but then became an availability issue. Re-tooling the stock rods was just as expensive as the new rods, so we went new. I'm also saying this with the caveat that it was a complete overkill of epic proportions, but the delivery date was the wild card. The rods ordered were in-stock whereas the others being sold, for a Cleveland, were literally months out.

Now, the brand you ask? Molnar and yes, I said it was over-kill of epic proportions. The extra hundred bucks was worth the months delay, something I'm still fighting with the camshaft kit. The great news, the rods portion of the rotating assembly will be 1500HP ready. The not-so-great news, well, it was really a given when we had to increase the bore to clean the cylinders, we now have a balance to add to the equation. I'm also looking into a line-bore for effect too. It's reached that point, there's no denying that this is an "in for a penny, in for a pound" scenario. but that may all change in the blink of an eye as we move forward in life.

So, with the motor covered at this point, we move to body work and the ever-so-taxing dilemma of media blasting. I just can't escape the issue but finally, I believe life had taken care of my decision and once again, it does involve dust but for reasons not yet explained and those would be health related. It would be absolutely insane of me or anyone else in my situation to media blast. Even with the PPE available and have at home, full coverage Tyvek suits and all, media blasting dust is too invasive. So, ending the explanation there, I'm looking at ways to knock down the dust better or reduce how much is produced.

Any type of sanding or wire-wheel work is going to produce dust, just as all the priming and painting but that can be managed better. So, whatever corners I can't reach with a wheel, they'll be cleaned with solvents. With body work, normal steps there too. But as far as the motor bay, it looks like I'll be using the prior mention cleaning and then covered with POR15 or some other form of cover-all before the finish coat. Maybe I'll look at some of the self-etching primers that might work too. Point is, I'm just not going to be able to achieve the cleanliness desired with blasting so need to call an audible in its place. With the wheel wells, I believe I'll treat as needed and cover with body undercoat spray. I also saw some roll-on stuff at the Eastwood site that might be worth looking into.

Stay tuned for more to come.
 
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